Hong Kong - tip of the spear in China Peoples' REVOLT against Socialist Rule

Cypress said:
Normally i would have to charge a wingnut money for history lessons , but this one is free .

Soviet and Chinese communistm are political systems that use a planned socialist economy as a tool of totalitarian state control and coercion
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In the same way fascism uses capitalist industry as a tool of authoritarian state control.

Every liberal on this forum looks to Norway as our touchstone of democratic socialism .
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I think you mean every progressive. Liberals do not look to illiberalism for inspiration.
 
Cypress said:
Normally i would have to charge a wingnut money for history lessons , but this one is free .

Soviet and Chinese communistm are political systems that use a planned socialist economy as a tool of totalitarian state control and coercion
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In the same way fascism uses capitalist industry as a tool of authoritarian state control.

Every liberal on this forum looks to Norway as our touchstone of democratic socialism .
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All socialists/communists rage against the capitalist system, comrade.
 
Howard the Duck said:
That's at least half of what I anticipate a Marxist would say, comrade.
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When did you last read Marx, and what did you read? Can you read? You do well to call yourself a duck, if you quack in this fatuous way. Just as your monopoly-capitalists pretend to be Christians, some of the state capitalists pretend to be Communists? So what. Socialists believe in control by the working class, not a few rich thieves and bullies, and we call one another 'Comrade' because we are. Why not call me a Jew, or a Nigger, or some other of the silly bullshit in your Big Book of Murder? You really are an ignorant bore, you know, and if you have nothing interesting to say you belong on Ignore with the other Nazis.
 
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Cypress said:
As rune aptly stated you are attempting a false premise .

I am going to be generous and assume your tepid premise is a consequence of your ignorance of history.

The soviet communists overthrew a democratic socialist provisional government in October 1917

Socialists were the first to take up arms against the soviet communists, while conservative aristocrats and capitalists sat on the sidelines or fled the country in a panic.


Normally i would have to charge a wingnut money for history lessons , but this one is free .

Soviet and Chinese communism are political systems that use a planned socialist economy as a tool of totalitarian state control and coercion

In the same way fascism uses capitalist industry as a tool of authoritarian state control.

Every liberal on this forum looks to Norway as our touchstone of democratic socialism .
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Darth Omar said:
All socialists/communists rage against the capitalist system, comrade.
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A tepid assertion - more of a slogan really.

My take away here is that you actually have no scholarly knowledge, no competency to even discuss the context and history of socialism in Europe, Russia and North America.

All you really know is what you heard on Hannity-Limbaugh, eh??
 
Bigdog said:
We took down the Soviet Union without firing a shot. And if Xi plays his hand wrong, the same thing will happen to his socialist regime.
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I am not so sure about that. I do not think the majority of mainland Chinese know any better and would support a massive revolution against an armed tyrannical regime.

The former Soviet Union is different. It collapsed thanks to a changing leadership and lackluster economics.
 
Penderyn said:
Capitalism is ownership of industry by a tiny minority who force everyone else to work for their profit. Socialism is control of the economy by the working class. China, like all other countries in the world market, is intensely capitalist. These hell-holes call themselves all sorts of things - Christian, Communist, Muslim - but what they are for the majority is pure unadulterated shit. It has nothing whatever to do with the power of the capitalist state.
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You couldn't get things more wrong you Marxist moron. The only people who control anything in a Socialist society are the leaders who live like royalty while everyone else suffer. Only and epic idiot like you could support an ideology with a long history of failure. But then, that's why you are a moron.
 
Penderyn said:
All capitalist states operate in the world market - what else could they do? Every capitalist (i.e. every) state operates in the interests of a tiny minority who own everything and live off our backs. Everyone knows this, but some pretend otherwise to prevent the mugs waking up.
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What a massive pile of stupid from the Marxist moron. Capitalism is about freedom and independence. Marxism is about making everyone miserable except for the leadership at the top of the Government pyramid you ignorant twat.
 
Penderyn said:
Greed is only necessary for a peculiarly nasty form of capitalism. It has showed us how to produce all we need for a few hours work a week, but if we don't get shot of it, it is going to burn the lot of us.
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Creating greater wealth through industry is NOT about greed. It is about opportunity. Something you Marxist morons have great difficulty comprehending.
 
Penderyn said:
How many stockholders ever took the slightest risk, beyond some slight reduction of profit? How many ever had an idea beyond greed? The government, as you know, is merely the central committee of the ruling class.
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^^Marxist moron doesn't think stockholders carry risk. What a fucking dumb twat. :laugh:
 
Micawber said:
And Trump does nothing.
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^^Moron stuck on TDS.

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Cypress said:
As rune aptly stated you are attempting a false premise .

I am going to be generous and assume your tepid premise is a consequence of your ignorance of history.

The sovietcommunists overthrew a democratic socialist provisional government in October 1917

Socialists were the first to take up arms against the soviet communists, while conservative aristocrats and capitalists sat on the sidelines or fled the country in a panic.
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LIE and LAME; but then, that is to be expected from a Marxist moron like yourself.
 
Cypress said:
A tepid assertion - more of a slogan really.

My take away here is that you actually have no scholarly knowledge, no competency to even discuss the context and history of socialism in Europe, Russia and North America.

All you really know is what you heard on Hannity-Limbaugh, eh??
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That and the fact that it just isn't true.
All the successful Socialist countries rely on capitalism.

Like many things Darth says, this is a talking point addressed to those incapable of critical thought.
 
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