Hong Kong is nor revolting against China. Bigpig is as usual, wrong. They are defending themselves against Chinese intrusion. They would be happy to be left alone. China has kept their hands off Hong Kong for a long time because it is a money maker. As time has gone on, the success of Chinese industry has made HK a smaller and smaller part of the overall economy. Xi may have calculated they do not need a bastion of international capitalism anymore.
Hong Kong - tip of the spear in China Peoples' REVOLT against Socialist Rule
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LIE and LAME. Every liberal on this forum are Marxist morons who believe that Socialism is better than capitalism and will lead to better outcomes than it has in the past. Unfortunately, history is littered with Socialist failures.
Norway is an enormous country with vast resources and a tiny homogeneous population that isn't even as large as the City of New York. It's easy to promote their kind of Socialism without a lot of sacrifice. Over time, however, they too will not be able to support their Socialist healthcare and welfare society.
Into the Night
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What pot? What kettle? Non-sequitur fallacy. Fallacy fallacy.
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Into the Night
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Worth what you pay for, since this is not a history lesson of any sort.
Communism, which is one form of socialism, and fascism, which is the other form of socialism, are theft of wealth. They can only be implemented by dictatorships or oligarchies. China uses oligarchy. The USSR used oligarchies. Russia today is more capitalist, but still has a lot of socialism going on.
WRONG. Fascism is theft of industry by operation, not by ownership. The government tells the companies what they can make, how much they can sell it for, when they can sell it, who they can sell to, how much to pay their workers, where to buy their raw materials from, etc. Of course, the owners still own the company. They just don't get any say how it's run.
Communism is where the government owns the industry outright. They ARE the owners.
Both forms of socialism bring misery. It is theft of wealth. Only capitalism can create wealth.
If you believe that. I bet you say, 'Kum Ba Ya" a lot too.
Norway is largely capitalist. It is a monarchy, but so far the government hasn't been seriously attempting to steal wealth and give it to unproductive members of society. Thus, despite the monarchy, Norway is prospering. Norway is not a democracy.
There are currently no democracies anywhere in the world.
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You are not discussing history of socialism. You are only pushing socialism.
Into the Night
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Quite right. Without someone to steal wealth from, socialism collapses.
Into the Night
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Norway today is actually rather capitalist. This is despite their monarchy. Fortunately, the monarchy has decided to keep their mitts off the economy for now.
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"For Sunday, Hong Kong's Civil Human Rights Front — the movement behind record-breaking rallies in June and July — billed a "rational, non-violent" protest in the island's Victoria Park.
"What we are fighting for is democracy and our rights," said Minnie Lee, a 31-year-old logistics worker. "We're not doing anything wrong. If we stop now, things will only get worse."
https://www.dw.com/en/hong-kong-protests-call-for-democracy-rally-for-china/a-50062840
Despite China's pro Socialist media and one party rule, ... news of the Hong Kong uprising does make it to the mainland thru friends and relatives.
China has grown its Middle class over the decades, and that could come back to bite the Socialist gov't in the arse, if China's economy goes South and they start losing their jobs and businesses.
The new middle class are not going to go quietly back to a subsistence living on farms. They are educated, brave, and have tasted the greatness of capitalism and personal autonomy.
Bigdog, I give you credit for seeming to care about democracy in the world!
That's a good start! Keep caring, and someday, you may even care about your own democracy- and reflect that in your vote!
MSgt
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The worst thing a person can be called is a Marxist. If they would all commit themselves to a Jonestown solution, the world would instantly be a better place. Along with Nazis, they are the only ideologues for which I proscribe this.
MSgt
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Reminds me of certain other revolutions.
The Anonymous
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Someone with low self-esteem, I'm sure.
Don't forget Muslims you hater, lol
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^^Marxist moron thinks Karl Marx is great.
I think it's the height of irony that Highgate Cemetery is charging £8 to see Marx's tomb.
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Victory for protestors as Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam announces the WITHDRAWAL of hated extradition bill following three months of unrest
Embattled Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam (pictured) announced the bill's withdrawal at a meeting with lawmakers today and confirmed it in a public statement in which she called for dialogue.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nbag-rounds-overnight-clashes-protesters.html
Embattled Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam (pictured) announced the bill's withdrawal at a meeting with lawmakers today and confirmed it in a public statement in which she called for dialogue.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nbag-rounds-overnight-clashes-protesters.html