Someone should start a pool

Getin the ring said:
you don't even know what a fascist is? throwing that word around like a parrot stuck on nut mode

Socialism is simply taking from some to provide for others, that will never promote self worth, the drive to get ahead, the principle that you can reach any goal you are willing to work hard to achieve, the American way....and every policy the Democrats by and large are promoting, and have ben promoting is just socialism disguised as being fair.

There is a reason why America is different, why we have stood out from socialist countries, because we believe in capitalism, it works
Not a chance in hell the make up of this country, at present, will let that happen.

I understand your side is working on it, but you have a ways to go
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Appears "gettin" struggles with economics also

Tip for you, America, nor any other nation, has a pure capitalist system, it is mixed, as is everyone else's economies. The US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, and probably before that, did you think SS and Medicare, let alone the majority of all services currently operated by some Gov't, were capitalistic?
 
Bleeding heart said:
While the left wing media ignores the Antifa movement. BTW Antifa (which the left supports) and Fascism Are the Same Side.
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You mean the hundred or so dimwits who follow a web page and show up dressed in black at such as "unite the right" rallies?

And if I am not mistaken, the group supports anarchism, which if you really understood political theory, couldn't be any further removed from Fascism.
 
PoliTalker said:
I would hazard a guess that when the term socialism is used by Fox, it is most frequently used in a negative light and rarely if ever mentioned the positive aspects.
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Usually, or referenced to something negative, but often it is more discreet, thrown in when narrating something else
 
dukkha said:
Bernie IS a socialist. The rest ACT like Bernie ( income redistribution, free stuff) so they are socialists as well
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Oh, I got it, guilt by association, and Republicans, conservatives even, frequently talk about saving SS, so does that make them socialists? And by association then, aren't all Republicans socialists
 
Getin the ring said:
I'm not sure what you call the Democrat candidates if not socialist,

the very definition of socialism is take from some to give to others
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Is that true? You cannot understand it? The so-called socialist nations are capitalist just like we are. They just allocate their taxes differently than we do. They use it to support people with healthcare and safety nets. We give it to wealthy and corporations.
There is no socialism. They are all industrial nations with people working as we do.
 
Bigdog said:
They are too busy talking about Sharpies 24/7. :rofl2:

President Turmp is a stable genius.
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Oh, so they did lie, not often a Trumpkin admits such, now when do you think you will realize you've been duped all these years while they became millionaires playing you?
 
Gonzomin said:
Is that true? You cannot understand it? The so-called socialist nations are capitalist just like we are. They just allocate their taxes differently than we do. They use it to support people with healthcare and safety nets. We give it to wealthy and corporations.
There is no socialism. They are all industrial nations with people working as we do.
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You couldn't put it any simpler, but I'm sure that also sailed right over his head
 
countryboy said:
There are no positive aspects to socialism.
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Really?

You forfeiting your SS now or waiting till you are eligible?

Supporting private owned police and fire departments? How about the DPW in your town? Saying private ownership of all public roads and bridges would serve us better? Etc, etc, etc
 
archives said:
Really?

You forfeiting your SS now or waiting till you are eligible?

Supporting private owned police and fire departments? How about the DPW in your town? Saying private ownership of all public roads and bridges would serve us better? Etc, etc, etc
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That's not socialism, but you already knew that.
 
archives said:
Oh, I got it, guilt by association, and Republicans, conservatives even, frequently talk about saving SS, so does that make them socialists? And by association then, aren't all Republicans socialists
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what are you yammering about? I said this -nothing about SS or roads
by dukkha
Bernie IS a socialist. The rest ACT like Bernie ( income redistribution, free stuff) so they are socialists as well
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archives said:
Oh, the Social Security program adminsterd by the Gov't isn't socialistic, right, and now you are going to tell us that it isn't socialism cause you paid into it, correct?
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Big government boondoggles are not socialism, get over it. Words have meaning, learn them. Stop spreading disinformation.
 
Getin the ring said:
you don't even know what a fascist is? throwing that word around like a parrot stuck on nut mode

Socialism is simply taking from some to provide for others, that will never promote self worth, the drive to get ahead, the principle that you can reach any goal you are willing to work hard to achieve, the American way....and every policy the Democrats by and large are promoting, and have ben promoting is just socialism disguised as being fair.

There is a reason why America is different, why we have stood out from socialist countries, because we believe in capitalism, it works
Not a chance in hell the make up of this country, at present, will let that happen.

I understand your side is working on it, but you have a ways to go
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Fascists are gangs of lower-middle class thugs who hate democracy and rush in to take over the political system when capitalism weakens and decides to give up democratic pretences. Obviously, fascism has to keep going when the crisis is not too intense, and Trump is the sort of fuhrer it uses while in waiting. Socialism is democratic control by those who do all the work. Like the UK before it, the USA is the centre of capitalism, and can afford to keep its mugs relatively quiet on what it steals from its colonial territories. Capitalism, as you know, fails regularly, and is recovering very poorly of late, which is why the big money was prepared to risk a clown like Trump.
 
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