"...the 3% promised?" You believe campaign rhetoric? You probably believed the "Hope & Change" thing, also.
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"...the 3% promised?" You believe campaign rhetoric? You probably believed the "Hope & Change" thing, also.
I never argued that tax cuts raise or lower revenue. I said revenue increased in FY2018 and FY 2019. That was simply to refute your argument suggesting tax cuts never raise revenue.
If I think taxes are too high I think they should be cut even if it does reduce revenue. As I said before that you ignore, I did not favor the 2017 tax cuts without cutting spending an equal amount.
Is that the reason you would not admit you were totally wrong when you claimed a person cannot be prosecuted for assaulting or killing a Nazi (standing peacefully) because he is an "inherent threat" even after I showed you constitutional law and court cases that proved you didn't know what you were talking about?
No, you just dropped the topic.
Or, after I said there were about 8 million people who voted for Obama in 2012 who voted for Trump in 2016? You gave us a bunch of math claiming that was not true because that would not account for several million votes. I showed you 7 million voted for 3rd party candidates and you dropped the topic.
You issue insults with your charges of "sophist," "bad faith," or "entitled" (never used appropriately) while engaging in the same hypocritical cherry picked crap this is never an argument against the point being made but diverting to other issues or challenging trivia or arguing against things nobody ever said.
LOL! You don't even pay your own way, much less mine.
Explain that, please. Because revenue was up more the prior FY.
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It wasn't a campaign promise, it was a literal promise made as they were drafting the bill in late 2017...and it was a promise not just Trump made, but all his surrogates and all the GOP, and they all kept making that promise, even through Q1 of this year:
Drumpf advisor Kevin Hassett is sticking to his forecast of 3% economic growth this year
February 19th, 2019
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/19/tru...xpects-3percent-economic-growth-for-2019.html
Why are you carrying their baggage for them? Are you stupid? This is just about your ego, isn't it? You just don't want to admit to me that you're full of shit because you know I'll never let it go.
They don't raise revenues, Flash!
Fuck, are you sticking with the sophistry because you don't want to admit you're getting taken for a ride by the gospel of tax cuts?
Revenue was down once the tax cut took effect.
Revenue only grew in FY 2018 because of the three months that didn't have a tax cut.
And revenue grew in FY 2019 because there wasn't another tax cut to reduce them.
Why do I get the sense you're pretending to be stupid because of how insecure you are?
And there you have it; the stupidest response possible. So you reduce revenues, which caused deficits, which you then use as an excuse to cut spending along your ideological beliefs.
That's fiscal terrorism.
So you're saying that taxes were too high in 2017?
You can kill a Nazi if you want. I encourage it. Both my grandfathers did that.
So your tactic now is to dredge up something that is debatable to try and do a BoTh SiDeS thing where you can drag me for doing something you need to do when talking in absolutes like numbers.
What a fucking pussy.
BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE!
What a fucking crybaby.
So, then you'll admit you deliberately left those detailed numbers out when you said "revenue increased in FY 2018" to try and frame a bullshit argument in favor of tax cuts.
Got it.
No, I didn't leave them out. I never challenged your premise that those three months were responsible for the revenue gain. I didn't leave that out any more than you left out that FY 2018 saw a revenue increase. We measure revenue by fiscal year, not by individual months. It was also silly to claim any immediate effect of a tax cut either way.
And, I never claimed tax cuts increase or decrease revenue. I only documented that sometimes they do increase revenue to refute your erroneous claim that they always result in declines.
Just like you never admitted you were full of shit about assaulting Nazis.
They didn't kill any Nazi's in the U. S. protected by criminal law and freedom of expression guarantees. What a fraud to compare killing someone in an enemy army during a declared war compared to an American citizen peacefully standing on the sidewalk.
There is nothing debatable about being able to assault or murder an American citizen engaging in a peaceful act. This shows your continued unwillingness to admit you were full of BS by pretending it is "debatable."
You try to hold onto any claims you make no matter how stupid or wrong because you never want to admit you make-up stuff whenever the facts don't fit your ideology.
You keep arguing with a straw man. I never believed in any gospel of tax cuts. I don't care if tax cuts raise or cut revenue. A cut in revenue would not cause greater deficits because I would cut spending. As I said many times which you ignore that I did not favor the tax cuts without offsetting spending cuts.
Do you all of a sudden care about deficits? You told us it didn't matter to you.
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And you believed Trump? What an idiot.
I didn't believe him. But you did. You believed this stupid tax cut would grow the economy, except that economic growth for 2018 was no better than 2015, when we didn't have a tax cut, and not much better than the prior year, which also didn't have a tax cut.
If you've ever said that tax cuts cause economic growth because of letting people keep more of what they earned, then you got bamboozled.
But if tax cuts supposedly increase consumer spending and activity, why would any spending need to be cut? Shouldn't the tax cut stimulate more spending, thus leading to more revenues? That's what you've been arguing this whole time.
What a fucking sophist.
Pointing out that tax cuts create deficits that are then used as an excuse to cut spending you can't cut because you lack the courage, will, and support to do so through conventional legislation, doesn't mean I share your phoney baloney concerns about the deficit in general.
This is precisely what I am talking about when I say you act in bad faith.
You deliberately create deficits with the tax cuts, even admitting they reduce revenues, so that you can force through the cuts to the spending to which you are ideologically opposed but lack any true support to repeal outside of a budgetary "emergency".
Nothing Nazis do is inherent;y peaceful because they're, you know, Nazis.
So I'll tell ya what, Flash. You can leap to the defense of Nazis, and we'll pigeonhole you into being a Nazi lover. Then you and your new Nazi pals can all sit around and talk about how much you respect each other.
Why would a tax cut need time to work since its direct effect is immediate?
But they don't.
In fact, in every instance over the last 40 years, the tax cut has either reduced revenue from previous years (as it did from 1982-3, 2000-4, and in 2018), or prompted an economic bubble (1997-2000, 2004-7).
That is what has happened since 1980; the data is indisputable.
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I've also noticed over the last couple months, you've slid pretty hard into far right talking points and conversation framing. You argue every single point made by right-wingers, Conservatives, and Trumpists.
Why is that?