96% of biologists...life begins at fertilization

Jade Dragon said:
This is beyond sad. Talk about bullshit sourcing with this monstrous fabrication. The owner is demented and sickening, so why you don't check these things is nuts. Can we please put on some big boy pants?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quillette/

Look into the lady yourself if you need to elsewhere.
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1) The 'lady' (whomever the hell that is) did not write the article nor did she do the study. Stephen Jacobs, a biologist at the University of Chicago, is the author.

2) Your moronic need to attack the website instead of addressing the author or the information in the article shows that you are a biased hack with no interest in anything that dares confront your moronic views.
 
Jade Dragon said:
It's basically run by a lady that acts like Stonebystone, crossed with Havana Moon, Bigdog, and Teflon Don. She has a melange of holy shit traits.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quillette/

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quillette
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3211703

The site you are bitching and moaning about simply published a paper from the University of Chicago. The above is the social science research network. Maybe you will shut the fuck up now?
 
Jade Dragon said:
It's a site chomping at the bit for dangerous rhetoric in news. They were trolled in an attempt to reveal their bias towards sanctimonious bottom barrel stories. They seem to always try to push the boundaries with pseudoscience and trying to manufacture conflict to get stories. They are a white nationalism hub basically and I'd rather sample reading from an old stall at some bar in Roswell, NM.
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3211703

You are so completely full of shit.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
I am so sick of those crazy thoughtless talking points- TELL THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE!

Those talking points are old and tired- WHICH TELLS ME YOU'RE OLD AND TIRED!
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I'm not the one that think some whore single mother should be able to make a decision with her body, tell others to butt out, then believes it's OK to demand someone else support that child.

I told you, NIGGER. Now, you can either learn from them or continue to prove you don't believe in personal responsibility. Outside of that, I don't give a shit if that mother and her fucking children SHE chose to have go without.
 
Superfreak said:
Yes, yet so many on the left continue to pretend it isn't human, in order to justify ending its life. Saying it has nothing to do with abortion when it comes up constantly from idiots on the left is absurd.
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Nice of you to imagine what we think about the subject, rather than what we really believe. This will bounce off the colander on your head, but here goes anyway:

Almost all of us on either side of the debate agree that a human zygote is human -- it contains human DNA. The forced-birthers believe that this DNA enables them to force the carrier of the DNA to harbor it till birth. The pro-choice advocates, on the other hand, believe that the carrier's life trumps that of the zygote's. In other words, an already-here-and-functioning-on-its-own human being's life should always have precedence over a could-be-alive-outside-the-body-someday-maybe potential life.

As for you and others of your kind who lack the apparatus to conceive and carry a human child, butt out. Worry about where your own sperm goes and what it does. If you don't like abortion, don't be responsible for someone needing one.
 
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Gonzomin said:
So women are merely compliant breeders? Their lives do not figure in the equation? The fetus is a group of cells with no senses, no ability to exist on its own. That collection of cells does not have rights over those of an adult or young woman. If you could remove a beginning fetus and insert it in a Christian's body, then you could argue it.
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More moronic comments.

1) No one is saying the woman's life doesn't figure into the equation

2) The point of the OP was to get idiots on the left to focus on the actual debate regarding abortion.... WHEN should the progeny be entitled to basic human rights protections. Instead, we get idiots like you rambling on as if it is 'just a clump of cells'. We are all clumps of cells you idiot.

3) No one is suggesting the progeny have rights OVER those of the woman.

4) Again, as stated in the OP, the debate should be about when the progeny should be afforded human rights protections. at Birth? conception? fetal heart rate detection? When?

5) But the left wants to dehumanize the progeny so that they can justify killing it.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Nice of you to imagine what we think about the subject, rather than what we really believe. This will bounce off the colander on your head, but here goes anyway: Almost all of us on either side of the debate argue that a human zygote is human -- it contains human DNA. The forced-birthers believe that this DNA enables them to force the carrier of the DNA to harbor it till birth. The pro-choice advocates, on the other hand, believe that the carrier's life trumps that of the zygote's. In other words, an already-here-and-functioning-on-its-own human being's life should always have precedence over a could-be-alive-outside-the-body-someday-maybe potential life.

As for you and others of your kind who lack the apparatus to conceive and carry a human child, butt out. Worry about where your own sperm goes and what it does. If you don't like abortion, don't be responsible for someone needing one.
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LMAO... I do not have to imagine. Pull up threads from the past on this site. You will see the left wing nuts argue over and over and over again trying to pretend it isn't human.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
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^ Most conservative "Christian" pro-lifers ^
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That is a lie! We are certain what causes pregnancy,The man, and woma contribute, but only she gets to choose, and that is nonsense, as is your next argument, "when he carries it fro 9 months he can have a say!" People know the consequences of unsafe sex, and promiscuity, and leftists do not understand what accountability means, so murder that child it is! Dress that up with whatever terms you want, and it changes nothing!
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Nice of you to imagine what we think about the subject, rather than what we really believe. This will bounce off the colander on your head, but here goes anyway: Almost all of us on either side of the debate argue that a human zygote is human -- it contains human DNA. The forced-birthers believe that this DNA enables them to force the carrier of the DNA to harbor it till birth. The pro-choice advocates, on the other hand, believe that the carrier's life trumps that of the zygote's. In other words, an already-here-and-functioning-on-its-own human being's life should always have precedence over a could-be-alive-outside-the-body-someday-maybe potential life.

As for you and others of your kind who lack the apparatus to conceive and carry a human child, butt out. Worry about where your own sperm goes and what it does. If you don't like abortion, don't be responsible for someone needing one.
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As for the life vs. life... I do believe the woman should have the right to decide if it is life vs. life. But not if it is convenience vs. life.

Because all you great minds on the left know how pregnancy occurs. Don't want to be pregnant? Don't get pregnant.
 
Superfreak said:
OWL... another example of the great minds of the left.
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the left? wrong

the topic is stupid. we end life all the time. You think hunting is wrong?

Oh - you mean Human life begins at fertilization? so why not make it say so in the thread title?

but hey - carry on partisan douche (ps the egg is alive. so is the sperm. )
 
zymurgy said:
the left? wrong

the topic is stupid. we end life all the time. You think hunting is wrong?

Oh - you mean Human life begins at fertilization? so why not make it say so in the thread title?

but hey - carry on partisan douche (ps the egg is alive. so is the sperm. )
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More moronic spinning.

All life begins at fertilization. This particular thread is about the nonsense idiots from the left put forth regarding human progeny.

That said, hunting can be good and it can be bad. It is WHY we do it that matters. If done for food, then absolutely it is fine. If done simply for sport, then... no, not right.

On their own, the egg and sperm cells do not have the genetic code of a unique human life. Together, they do. Just basic genetics.
 
Superfreak said:
More moronic comments.

1) No one is saying the woman's life doesn't figure into the equation

2) The point of the OP was to get idiots on the left to focus on the actual debate regarding abortion.... WHEN should the progeny be entitled to basic human rights protections. Instead, we get idiots like you rambling on as if it is 'just a clump of cells'. We are all clumps of cells you idiot.

3) No one is suggesting the progeny have rights OVER those of the woman.

4) Again, as stated in the OP, the debate should be about when the progeny should be afforded human rights protections. at Birth? conception? fetal heart rate detection? When?

5) But the left wants to dehumanize the progeny so that they can justify killing it.
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Clumps of non-sentient cells is different. They are far, far removed from resembling a person. They are not entitled to rights that overpower a woman's.
Any rightys who want to force a girl to have a baby she cannot support and does not want should be willing to take it and raise it.
Abortion is a woman's decision. It is her body and I have no right to force my beliefs on her. Neither do you.
 
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