20,070 dead

moon said:
Sure. Some of us are going to die. Your fairy-land positivity is pure Disney.
Of course, you might just be casting your fairy-dust for survivors- and you classify yourself among them. 31, 000 people have already made that error.
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I love Disney...don't you? Which is your fav?
 
In four days, the number of dead went up by 50%. That means it is doubling in less than a week. In about 12 days, at the current rate, it should pass 100,000.

There will obviously be slowdowns and speedups. New York will slowdown, California has already put in a massive effort to slow things down, but Florida has failed, and will soon be a complete mess.
 
Walt said:
In four days, the number of dead went up by 50%. That means it is doubling in less than a week. In about 12 days, at the current rate, it should pass 100,000.

There will obviously be slowdowns and speedups. New York will slowdown, California has already put in a massive effort to slow things down, but Florida has failed, and will soon be a complete mess.
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Please vote in a poll. I'm curious to see how many people will stake a claim that American deaths will be less or over the maximum projected 62,000 flu deaths. Lot's of far RWers claiming this is no worse than the flu but not a single one of them has the balls to vote in the poll.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?138952-US-COVID-19-deaths-by-Election-Day
 
Dutch Uncle said:
True, since it happened on his watch. OTOH, to claim Trump is responsible for the virus is incorrect.
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He's responsible for the scale of the contagion in North America. If he refuses to fund the WHO he'll be responsible for it elsewhere too.
 
moon said:
He's responsible for the scale of the contagion in North America. If he refuses to fund the WHO he'll be responsible for it elsewhere too.
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Disagreed. I've castigated the uber-Right about trying to have it both ways on this virus. The same goes to the Left. Does Trump have the authority to shut down the country? No, he does not. Should the US have been better prepared? Yes, but that's Congress, not Trump.

Trump could have offered some good leadership about what Congress should be doing, but most people know he's incapable of doing so. Still, this is a learning moment for the US. Will we be better prepared next time or will we keep cutting the budget to the CDC and medical research?
 
Walt said:
In four days, the number of dead went up by 50%. That means it is doubling in less than a week. In about 12 days, at the current rate, it should pass 100,000.

There will obviously be slowdowns and speedups. New York will slowdown, California has already put in a massive effort to slow things down, but Florida has failed, and will soon be a complete mess.
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And, the numbers are probably undercounted
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Please vote in a poll. I'm curious to see how many people will stake a claim that American deaths will be less or over the maximum projected 62,000 flu deaths. Lot's of far RWers claiming this is no worse than the flu but not a single one of them has the balls to vote in the poll.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?138952-US-COVID-19-deaths-by-Election-Day
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The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic killed over half a million in this country.

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rjhenn said:
No, but he is responsible for the inept response.

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Partially. Despite the fact Trump has tried to crown himself several times, he's not King. There are two other branches of government besides the Executive Branch.
 
rjhenn said:
The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic killed over half a million in this country.

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Healthcare is better now. OTOH, if the fatality rate is 1% and at least a third of the country becomes infected, the Spanish flu pandemic will move to second place.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed. I've castigated the uber-Right about trying to have it both ways on this virus. The same goes to the Left. Does Trump have the authority to shut down the country? No, he does not. Should the US have been better prepared? Yes, but that's Congress, not Trump.

Trump could have offered some good leadership about what Congress should be doing, but most people know he's incapable of doing so. Still, this is a learning moment for the US. Will we be better prepared next time or will we keep cutting the budget to the CDC and medical research?
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I'm not 'Left ' myself- so I can say that Trump could have advised self-isolation much , much earlier even if he couldn't order it. Trump also ignored warnings of a pandemic, remained unprepared, unequipped and spent more energy trying to dismantle Obama's health projects that any sane president would do.

You say yourself that Trump is incapable of leadership but that is no excuse. The buck stops at his desk- always, not just sometimes. That's the nature of the job that he's unfit for.

Trump gloats over ABC ‘fake news’ as medical intelligence refutes shock report, denies warning Washington of Covid-19 in November

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A bombshell ABC News report that claimed US military intelligence warned the White House about a looming coronavirus outbreak was denied by the service itself, giving President Trump an opportunity to gloat at his accusers.
The story, released on Wednesday, claimed the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) reported in November that a possible “cataclysmic event” was in the making in China's Wuhan city. The NCMI – part of the Pentagon's intelligence apparatus – gave a warning to the US government, but it failed to act early to prevent the spread of the Covid-19 epidemic in the country or to prepare for mitigating the damage, the narrative went.

https://www.rt.com/usa/485458-abc-report-intelligence-coronavirus/
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Dutch Uncle said:
Partially. Despite the fact Trump has tried to crown himself several times, he's not King. There are two other branches of government besides the Executive Branch.
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He's the Chief Executive. As Truman said: "The buck stops here."

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