Trump Approval Rating Hits All-Time High in New Gallup Poll May 1st.

Cohort said:
you clearly don't understand basic data science and probability.
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By all means, act like a pretentious jester and think you have things figured out by trumpeting for a worthless poll. Maybe you'll flounder like the Dems did. It's only like the 300th+ time we heard the same worthless gloating over an uptick before more inevitable downticks and then more future upticks. Gauging opinions are not a science and until someone gets that they are a dog chasing their tail. None of these polls are even favorable so who are you people kidding? Well, besides yourselves. One would think people would try to downplay unfavorable polls but you Trump supporters have been waving them around like you won the championship. In the end, the number of people involved in a single poll is literally insignificant when gauging the opinion of the American people. So why are simpletons parading these insignificant numbers? Because they are suckers for hype.
 
CNN did an excellent report on the virus timeline within the admin since January.

It is the most stark and indisputable failure of leadership in modern history.
 
Crocodile said:
By all means, act like a pretentious jester and think you have things figured out by trumpeting for a worthless poll. Maybe you'll flounder like the Dems did. It's only like the 300th+ time we heard the same worthless gloating over an uptick before more inevitable downticks and then more future upticks. Gauging opinions are not a science and until someone gets that they are a dog chasing their tail. None of these polls are even favorable so who are you people kidding? Well, besides yourselves. One would think people would try to downplay unfavorable polls but you Trump supporters have been waving them around like you won the championship. In the end, the number of people involved in a single poll is literally insignificant when gauging the opinion of the American people. So why are simpletons parading these insignificant numbers? Because they are suckers for hype.
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gauging opinions when your poll is about peoples opinions is absolutely a science lol. It's called statistics.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL. Awesome "Breaking News!", Earl I guess news travels a little slow down there in the holler.

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News down south does not travel "slow" or "slowly."

It travels at the speed of light...186,000mps, Snowflake.
 
jade - here is the thing, you talk about how the poll is "worthless" but you don't say why. You have no actual argument. I doubt you looked at the methodology or sample size or the polling questions. You didn't do any of that. you just rejected it wholesale because it didn't tell you an answer you liked. This isn't you being intelligent, it's you putting your fingers in your ears.

If you wanted to be smart (like me) you'd actually try to form a coherent argument. then maybe you'd be taken seriously.

For example, if someone were to show me a poll about electoral politics that sampled americans, I would call that particular poll nearly worthless, because a sample of "American adults" skews very liberal (voters in general skew more conservative than the population due to boomers having an absurdly high turnout rate, as well as urban voters (liberals) voting less due to having to deal with much longer lines in the cities.

A poll of registered voters or likely voters would be much more predictive. This has always been the case

Additionally there may be outlier polls, or national polls (like the one in the OP) that doesn't necessarily correlate 1:1 with state level elections. But this thread isn't talking about election prospects, it's talking about what americans think, and in that sense it's going to be more accurate in general because we're are only dealing with a single variable. The less inferences one tries to extrapolate = the fewer the variables one is dealing with = the less variance there will be = The more accurate the poll is overall. Boom I just gave you a free lesson.

So there are ways to break down polling science, but you have to have some brains to do it. Thankfully, I am one of the smartest poll analyzers on this site, and I use deep level analysis, so if you stick with me this election cycle, you might actually learn something.
 
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Cohort said:
jade - here is the thing, you talk about how the poll is "worthless" but you don't say why. You have no actual argument. I doubt you looked at the methodology or sample size or the polling questions. You didn't do any of that. you just rejected it wholesale because it didn't tell you an answer you liked. This isn't you being intelligent, it's you putting your fingers in your ears.

If you wanted to be smart (like me) you'd actually try to form a coherent argument. then maybe you'd be taken seriously.

For example, if someone were to show me a poll about electoral politics that sampled americans, I would call that particular poll nearly worthless, because a sample of "American adults" skews very liberal (voters in general skew more conservative than the population due to boomers having an absurdly high turnout rate, as well as urban voters - liberals having to deal with much longer lines). A poll of registered voters or likely voters would be much more predictive.

So there are ways to break down polling science, but you have to have some brains to do it. Thankfully, I am one of the smartest poll analyzers on this site, and I use deep level analysis, so if you stick with me this election cycle, you might actually learn something.
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Super....then you are the guy to ask.....Can the pollster profession be saved?

Is this election their last chance?

Inquiring minds need to know!
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Super....then you are the guy to ask.....Can the pollster profession be saved?

Is this election their last chance?

Inquiring minds need to know!
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the polls werne't actually wrong in 2016, or at least, not in the way people think they were. For example clinton was predicted to have like a +2pt margin nationally and that's just what she got.

The main error with polling in 2016 was peoples interpretation of the data - that is to say, the data itself was true, but people refused to see the truth in it. THe public at large had a very hard time understanding of trump having a 30% chance of winning and what it actually meant. Everyone kept saying trump had an absolute zero shot. They ignored the data.

I was all over JPP saying for months leading up the election that trump had a very good shot to win and I was laughed at, and I argued over and over this point. Many media organizations downplayed his chances of winning to an absurd degree, because they live in echo chambers and couldn't face the reality that was starring them in the face.

Now of course with the hindsight over history, it was all so obvious. But people forget that at the time almost all major media was saying trump had virtually no shot.
 
Cohort said:
the polls werne't actually wrong in 2016, or at least, not in the way people think they were. For example clinton was predicted to have like a +2pt margin nationally and that's just what she got.

The main error with polling in 2016 was peoples interpretation of the data - that is to say, the data itself was true, but people refused to see the truth in it. THe public at large had a very hard time understanding the high degree of likelyhood of trump having a 30% chance of winning actually meant. Everyone kept saying trump had an absolute zero shot. I am all over JPP saying for months leading up the election that trump had a very good shot to win and I was laughed at, and I argued over and over this point. Many media organizations downplayed his chances of winning to an absurd degree, because they live in echo chambers and couldn't face the reality that was starring them in the face.
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I know all about what happened...the polls were low quality, and them who made then said nothing as the so-called journalists misrepresented their work.

Start here if you want to talk to me, I have no time for dim-wits.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I know all about what happened...the polls were low quality, and them who made then said nothing as the so-called journalists misrepresented their work.

Start here if you want to talk to me, I have no time for dim-wits.
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im sorry, i don't speak retard. have you tried google translate? :thinking:
 
Cohort said:
im sorry, i don't speak retard. have you tried google translate? :thinking:
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Translation: I have zero interest in either listening or learning or being civilized.

Do Better if you can mange please.

I know how adulting is hard!

Some people manage!
 
BartenderElite said:
CNN did an excellent report on the virus timeline within the admin since January.

It is the most stark and indisputable failure of leadership in modern history.
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The virus from China that China failed to contain has caused death and economic loss in America and around the world.

Every country is suffering.

President Trump has followed the guidelines and advice set by Fauci and Birx.

When the virus is over, America will return to the booming economy that President Trump has given us for the last three years.

President Trump is in the top five of best presidents, Snowflake.

Why do you blame President Trump for the virus from China that China failed to contain?

Because you are a dumb, partisan hack
 
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