Serious question here: If Floyd died from neck compression as claimed.....

[Nomad]

Who gives a fuck?
Hang the four pig cops from a tree, and we can discuss it after that.

Sounds like they should have done that to your parents before they had the chance to produce a POS like you.

 

[christiefan915]

Since Floyd was talking the whole time, he wasn't suffocating.

That's not necessarily true.

"Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

"When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters, who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/

 

[anatta]

That's not necessarily true.

"Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

"When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters, who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/

indeed . good research.
many cops are misled to think if someone is talking they are also breathing. not always true

 

[Nomad]

That's not necessarily true.

"Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

"When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters, who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/

The cop obviously acted stupidly, carelessly and even callously.

But they need to be careful and not give in to their zeal to pacify the public by over charging him.

If they try him on 2nd degree murder or higher, they may well find out what the prosecution in the Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman trials found out the hard way.... as regrettable as the death in question may be, juries do not want to convict a person above what the evidence suggests they did.

This should be treated as manslaughter at best.

 

[Stretch]

Combination of pressure on arteries in the neck, affecting blood flow, in turn affects oxygen to the brain.
Plus 3 cops sitting on his back making it difficult to free the rib cage to effectively inhale and exhale.
He died before the medics arrived with the stretcher...and they still stayed on him.

 

[TTQ64]

That's all entirely possible.

My only problem is with the automatic presumption of guilt by everyone on the left, before any of the medical details are known.

Let's just all admit that at this point, we still don't know enough to make any kind of pronouncements about who is or is not guilty of what.

I know that's no fun and what we all really want to do is argue with the other side and hurl insults back and forth, but I for some reason just have no desire to do that in this instance.

I'll admit that my hope is that it turns out to not be Chauvin's fault, for a few reasons.

One reason is that I hate to think that a cop would be as reckless and indifferent as he would have to be, to watch a guy die, knowing that he was causing it. If it were to turn out that he wasn't at fault, I would at least have a little bit of faith and trust restored, in the people who are there to protect and uphold the law.

Another reason I hope Chauvin is not guilty, is that I don't believe racism in this country is as one-sided, pervasive and deleterious to black people as we're being told it is. I still believe enough in personal responsibility to feel that a certain percentage of black people's problems stem from their own behaviors and lifestyles. In this case, Floyd was passing funny money. Maybe he didn't know it, but I think the likelihood is that he did. In short, I don't want to see this incident play into and reinforce what I believe is, if not a totally false narrative, then a somewhat overstated one.

Yet another reason is that I hate to see a cop who's served the public for so many years, not only lose his job and everything else he owns, but have to spend a decade or more in prison.

Certainly, I was sorry to see Floyd lose his life, but we won't know why he did until the medical examiner's report comes out.

If it says he was full of narcotics and suffering the internal organ damaging effects of long term drug abuse, then I'll say he got what he asked for just like my late brother in law did and which he freely admitted before he died.

If it says Chauvin's knee is what killed him, then I'll have to accept the fact that he's guilty of what everyone on the left is accusing him of and I'll have to support whatever punishment the facts and circumstances dictate.

I just wish everyone would stop making pronouncements about things that are based only on assumptions.

This is how you racist fucks treat Blacks...........automatic think they committed a crime........but you're ok with that.

We still dont even know if George passed that 20 do we?

Where is the person who called the kops.......lets question them.

 

[TTQ64]

So, he didn’t suffocate. It is still a homicide.

But he did. that' report is from a white wing racist liar.

 

[Truth Detector]

Who gives a fuck?
Hang the four pig cops from a tree, and we can discuss it after that.

^This is what is wrong with the left these days. Any questions?

 

[Into the Night]

This restraining technique is discouraged by every police force because it can...... wait for it..... lead to serious injury or death. Third degree murder is totally appropriate.

Probably not in this case. Floyd was talking the whole time. He was not being suffocated.

 

[Into the Night]

How many have to die before righties decide this is wrong?

"Detective Aldridge "slammed her to the sidewalk and pushed her face into the pavement. He placed his knee onto her back, placed his weight on her and placed Tanisha in handcuffs."

After she stopped moving, the family claims, the police did not call an ambulance for some time and left Anderson’s half-naked body exposed to the public (with her nightgown hiked up around her hips), didn’t provide her with medical care and told her family that she was “sleeping.”

It is not wrong to use restraining techniques when someone is resisting arrest.

 

[Into the Night]

Hard to tell exactly where they had their weight on him from the available photos.

Like I said, I'll wait for the medical reports to come out and possibly even body cam footage from the police before I decide for myself if the cops are guilty as charged.

If the reports show that excessive force caused Floyd's death, I'll be right there with those calling for a long prison term.

It certainly wasn't because he was suffocating. Floyd was talking the whole time. Floyd was resisting arrest for robbery.

If I were on the jury, knowing the evidence from the video, I would acquit the officer and restore him to duty.

 

[Into the Night]

Your KKK group agrees with you.

YOUR KKK group. The KKK is a militant arm of the Democratic party...just like Antifa...one of the organizers of the looting and burning that we are now seeing.

 

[jacksonsprat22]

YOUR KKK group. The KKK is a militant arm of the Democratic party...just like Antifa...one of the organizers of the looting and burning that we are now seeing.

that's nice

 

[Into the Night]

It makes no difference, he died as a result of these cops actions. It’s why the 3rd degree murder charge.

Not good enough. You have to show what the action was, that it was carried out without cause, and that the action was intentional.

Floyd was being arrested for robbery. He then chose to resist arrest. There was cause to restrain him.
Floyd was talking the whole time. Since death was not by suffocation, you can't use that as the action that killed him.

 

[Into the Night]

That's not necessarily true.

It is necessarily true.

"Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

If he actually made such a statement, I would put little credence on his 'training'.

"When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

When somebody says, "I can't breathe", it means they are breathing and they are lying.

Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters,

Yes it does.

who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

A junk course then. Floyd wasn't asphyxiated.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/

Fake news source. You cannot use USA Today as an expert.

 

[Into the Night]

indeed . good research.
many cops are misled to think if someone is talking they are also breathing. not always true

It is always true. It is always not possible to talk if you can't breathe.

 

[Into the Night]

The cop obviously acted stupidly, carelessly and even callously.

But they need to be careful and not give in to their zeal to pacify the public by over charging him.

If they try him on 2nd degree murder or higher, they may well find out what the prosecution in the Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman trials found out the hard way.... as regrettable as the death in question may be, juries do not want to convict a person above what the evidence suggests they did.

This should be treated as manslaughter at best.

Stupidly, eh? Floyd was being arrested for robbery. He chose to resist arrest. That alone is stupid.

If I were on the jury, knowing the evidence presented in the video, I would acquit the officer and restore him to duty.

 

[Into the Night]

Combination of pressure on arteries in the neck, affecting blood flow, in turn affects oxygen to the brain.

Which makes you pass out, ending the threat.

Plus 3 cops sitting on his back making it difficult to free the rib cage to effectively inhale and exhale.

Floyd was inhaling and exhaling. He was talking. You can't talk if you can't breathe.

He died before the medics arrived with the stretcher...and they still stayed on him.

But not of asphyxia.

 

[Into the Night]

But he did. that' report is from a white wing racist liar.

Floyd did not suffocate. He was talking the whole time.

 

[Into the Night]

^This is what is wrong with the left these days. Any questions?

None. It seems they WANT a civil war.