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Dutch Uncle said:
Charging into enemy weapons is either very brave or very foolish. If they're just charging because they are sheep and simply herded into it, it's foolish.

The fact remains all of those Russians died because they gave into a totalitarian government. First they knelt under monarchism then to totalitarian socialism.

Yes, I admire those who fight and give their lives to free their country from tyranny, but they are few in number. Warriors admire warriors even if opponents.
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be rememberèd—
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,​

OTOH, when a majority are docile sheep who do nothing to gain freedom for themselves and for every child after them, then I pity them, but I have little respect for them.
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Russians got rid of the Soviet communists three decades ago.

Putin is afraid of the Russian people. That is why he goes to extraordinary lengths to consolidate control.

The Russians have a proven track record of being among the most courageous and resilient people on the planet.

Other than our civil war, Americans have had a pretty tame history and have almost never been called upon to make major sacrifices. We have never had continental threats or adversaries capable of challenging us.

Russia has a long history of throwing off the yoke of dictators and totalitarians - Mongols, Swedes, French, Nazs, Communists.
 
Cypress said:
Russians got rid of the Soviet communists three decades ago.

Putin is afraid of the Russian people. That is why he goes to extraordinary lengths to consolidate control.

The Russians have a proven track record of being among the most courageous and resilient people on the planet.

Other than our civil war, Americans have had a pretty tame history and have almost never been called upon to make major sacrifices. We have never had continental threats or adversaries capable of challenging us.

Russia has a long history of throwing off the yoke of dictators and totalitarians - Mongols, Swedes, French, Nazs, Communists.
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LOL That's like saying "We were great heroes in history, hit a rough patch, but are great heroes again!"

The reality is that the Russian people had a monarchy then embraced 70 years of a brutal Totalitarian Socialist regime, were given** a few years of freedom before giving up those freedoms for the security of a totalitarian leader....and almost 25 years later here we are.



**The Soviet Union imploded, it wasn't defeated in a revolution like the American Revolution.
 
Darth Omar said:
Dutch Uncle said:
Darth Omar said:
...Like I said: whenever, Trump leaves office, Russia will be largely forgotten by the Left.

It will go back to like it was when Romney was running against Obama. Russia will go back to being an ‘80’s thing’.
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Awesome rant, dude. I especially liked the bolded where, if the US does anything to get in Russia's way, they'll threaten to go nuclear on us. That's exactly the type of bullshit I'd feed to sheep if I thought I could get away with it.

Do you really think most Americans will cower at the thought Russian would go nuclear on us?
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What are you evening talking about?

The only people who ‘cower’ over Russia are lefties and Cold War relics and lefties only do it because it’s politically expedient.

All roads lead to The Bad Orange Man.
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Are you saying your "‘80’s thing’" reference wasn't to the Cold War and MAD?

One way to spot a Putin-sympathizer is this: One person says "Russia is our enemy. Look at how many of their missiles are pointed at us." The sympathizer says "Yeah, but look at how many we have pointed at them" whereas the true MAGA All-America says "I hope we have twice as many pointed back that those cocksuckers!!!" Face it, dude, you're a sympathizer whether you admit it or not.

Here's the funniest observation I made about the difference between Russians and Putin-Sympathizers. The Russians will defend their people and ignore the leadership. Cypress is an example there. The Putin-Sympathizers will attack those defending America against Putin's aggression but also give the ol' Russki-under-the-table-handjobs to each other. You and anatta are examples there. Cypress can't even get a kiss from either of you.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Are you saying your "‘80’s thing’" reference wasn't to the Cold War and MAD?

One way to spot a Putin-sympathizer is this: One person says "Russia is our enemy. Look at how many of their missiles are pointed at us." The sympathizer says "Yeah, but look at how many we have pointed at them" whereas the true MAGA All-America says "I hope we have twice as many pointed back that those cocksuckers!!!" Face it, dude, you're a sympathizer whether you admit it or not.

Here's the funniest observation I made about the difference between Russians and Putin-Sympathizers. The Russians will defend their people and ignore the leadership. Cypress is an example there. The Putin-Sympathizers will attack those defending America against Putin's aggression but also give the ol' Russki-under-the-table-handjobs to each other. You and anatta are examples there. Cypress can't even get a kiss from either of you.
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Again, I have no idea what you are talking about.

*I don’t care about Russia*. We have more important issues than Russia. How’s that?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Iran's in the same boat. Even better since most of the population likes the West and Western Culture. It's just their leadership which is whacko....but well armed enough to get their way. There were protests a few years ago, but not much lately. I wonder why?
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Good question, but maybe, COVID shut things down. I heard Iran was hit hard at first.
 
Darth Omar said:
Again, I have no idea what you are talking about.

*I don’t care about Russia*. We have more important issues than Russia. How’s that?
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Nyet, comrade. The world is still hostile. Russia is an important issue, but not alone in the top 5. China is up there with them but since the EU is being pressured by Russia and Russia is seeking to be the dominant influence in the ME, I'm more concerned about Russia than the growing threat of China.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Nyet, comrade. The world is still hostile. Russia is an important issue, but not alone in the top 5. China is up there with them but since the EU is being pressured by Russia and Russia is seeking to be the dominant influence in the ME, I'm more concerned about Russia than the growing threat of China.
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You’re afraid Russia ‘fixes the ME’ before we do lol?
 
Chaz said:
The 1980s are Calling:

THEY WANT THEIR FOREIGN POLICY BACK
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Human conflict has been around a lot, lot longer than 30 years. Boomers invented a lot of things but they didn't invent mankind's competitiveness to the point of killing each other.

Until our species develops unlimited renewable energy (think Mr. Fusion) and "replicators" (think 3D printers using fusion converted atoms) resources will always be in short supply for a species that breeds like rabbits. All wars are have either resources or geography (a resource in itself) as their base causes. The conflict in with China is the competition for undersea resources in the South China Sea.

With Russia, it's the same economic, political and military competitions to influence the parts of the globe China isn't throwing it's panda ass around.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Human conflict has been around a lot, lot longer than 30 years. Boomers invented a lot of things but they didn't invent mankind's competitiveness to the point of killing each other.

Until our species develops unlimited renewable energy (think Mr. Fusion) and "replicators" (think 3D printers using fusion converted atoms) resources will always be in short supply for a species that breeds like rabbits. All wars are have either resources or geography (a resource in itself) as their base causes. The conflict in with China is the competition for undersea resources in the South China Sea.

With Russia, it's the same economic, political and military competitions to influence the parts of the globe China isn't throwing it's panda ass around.
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Dutch is on top of things. Outstanding.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL That's like saying "We were great heroes in history, hit a rough patch, but are great heroes again!"

The reality is that the Russian people had a monarchy then embraced 70 years of a brutal Totalitarian Socialist regime, were given** a few years of freedom before giving up those freedoms for the security of a totalitarian leader....and almost 25 years later here we are.



**The Soviet Union imploded, it wasn't defeated in a revolution like the American Revolution.
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Most Americans -- outside of affluent landed white men - lived as either second class humans, or in abject bondage, for centuries.

On average, Russian serfs were better off than American slaves.

I do not think freedom is a race, and I do not think America has a claim to being a unique case where freedom and prosperity took root almost immediately in this Republic. We also had the good fortune of having an entire continent to ourselves with nary an existential threat in sight..

The Anglo-American concept of freedom is only one measure of freedom. There are many cultures in this world which would not trade their essence of life for the alienation, spritual decay, and moral decadence many see in the west.

We have to remember, it was unrestrained and unregulated capitalism that destroyed the flowering of a Russian democratic state in the 1990s.

If we had been occupied by Mongol hordes , Swedish armadas, Napoleonic armies, and bloodthirsty Nazi legions, we might also have a more Hobbesian view of life and the nature of the state. History and context are everything.

Russia has a long history of throwing off the yoke of dictators and conquers - in fact, they have overcome longer odds and more existential threats than we ever have. My hope is that someday Russia will have stronger democratic institutions. But they will not be Anglo-American in nature, and it will reflect the peculiar nature of Russian history.

I personally have never found it useful to find fault with any particular nation or culture. We all live with the angels and demons of our histories.
 
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