Althea
Althea told me...
Swing and a miss.
Anatta lied, Florida most definitely NOT under control
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Darth Omar
Russian asset
Not at all:
FLORIDA: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
FLORIDA TESTING: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/tracker/overview
Florida's testing has dropped the last week (down to 1.4/1000), while its positive rate has increased (up to 14.7%).
Everything you've ever said about the virus has been wrong.
Everything.
It's like you're actively and consciously making all the wrong choices.
FL has more COVID cases than NY.
FL has a higher positive rate than NY.
The fact that FL is going through this 5 months after NY goes to show that Conservatives learned nothing from what happened in NY and are desperate to pretend things are back to normal.
Meanwhile, the normal: Nearly 300 students in Florida county quarantined due to COVID-19 exposure concerns
You are comparing apples and oranges. The comparison is not valid. Yes, New York was a disaster too. Because lots of people died. Disaster is not a partisan term.
When you make it to the downside of the curve after 10,000 are dead, that is a disaster. Period. End of story.
Was Katrina a disaster? Yes. There is no need to compare it to some other disaster.
Also, NY happened 5 months ago...so for FL to be going through this now, 5 months after NY, speaks to the failure of Conservative leadership, and Conservatism in general.
There are many reasons that these to states are not equal. It deserves it's own thread. I"ll get to that. The bottom line is that a defense of 10,000 dead by pointing at New York is an avoidance tactic. There should have been a mask mandate in place, bars should not have re-opened, etc. because the state did not follow the guidelines outlined by health experts, and after the virus began to spread, the state continued to refuse to follow those guidelines. People are dying as a result. I consider that gross negligence by the governor. Saying 'but but New York' doesn't excuse that.
YUP!
Read the stats.
Testing Data for State from previous day
Total FL Residents Tested: 68,393
Positive: 4,605
Negative: 63,788
Percent Positive: 6.73 %
https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...8ddedb9b25e429 - click on health metrics on the bottom
Deaths have steadily decreased since 8/6.
That's ONE DAY, you lying sack of shit.
Deaths have been on a slight decline. But let's look at Florida deaths in perspective. Florida had 118 deaths yesterday. There were a total of 329 IN ALL OF EUROPE, including the Russia. Yeah, we're happy that deaths MAY be declining. But they are way, way to high.
Give it 3 weeks and that death count will be right back up to ~200/day. Florida schools have acted as a COVID delivery system. The worst in the state is yet to come.
I'm concerned about the school re-opening, but it might take a while for that to work through community spread to more vulnerable individuals. That's what happened after the ill advised Memorial Day reopening, and it took about two month for the death tolls to rise. But I suspect you're right that opening schools is a recipe for disaster.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Huh?
NY—with a smaller population, made it to the down hill side with three times the deaths as FL.
So if FL is a disaster NY was an Uber disaster or whatever. You were being hyperbolic, just admit it.
LOL, smaller population, huh? Do you just roll out of bed and decide what bullshit you are going to make up today? JUST the greater NYC metro area has a higher population than the ENTIRE STATE of Florida, and obviously that population is far more densely packed than is Florida. But that's just one of many differences, the primary difference being that the outbreak began spreading in New York City before people realized it was there. Just one of many significant differences. You're the one that's being hyerbolic, along with your lying and making up phony facts.
Florida opened up contrary to public health guidelines. They continued to ignore those guidelines and the result is that 10,000 Floridians are dead with more dying every single day. New York? Yesterday they had 629 new cases and 3 deaths. And Florida is still in the throes of a serious outbreak. Defending Florida's response by saying 'but but New York' is just like Trump talking about how great he did in Puerto Rico because more people died in Katrina. Apples and oranges. You still cannot mount any defense of the abysmal response of DeSantis. Same with Kemp in Georgia, where they have an even worse problem now.
idiot
Florida Passes New York to Become the Nation’s Third Most Populous State, Census Bureau Reports
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/cb14-232.html
Cuomo "knew" he requested extra beds and then didn't use them -instead he sent positive cases back into nursing homes
he's a partisan brain dead poster
It’s safe, smart to reopen Florida schools, state witnesses say
https://www.tampabay.com/news/educa...o-reopen-florida-schools-state-witnesses-say/
The message delivered Thursday in defense of Florida’s school reopening order differed little from the words Gov. Ron DeSantis has repeated for weeks: Children need face-to-face learning, and the risks of COVID-19 are not great enough to take away that opportunity.
A steady stream of parents, teachers, health experts and government officials hammered home that point as witnesses under the guided questioning of lawyers for the state. Defending against a lawsuit filed by Florida’s teachers union, they aimed to convince Leon County Judge Charles Dodson not to halt the order requiring schools to provide in-person classes by the end of August.
Related: Florida teachers make their case in court: Keep schools closed for now
Dodson, who heard testimony favoring the injunction on Wednesday, plans to hear closing arguments on Friday and issue an opinion early next week.
He has a lot of information to weigh.
Like the first day’s hearing, Thursday began with a witness from Hillsborough County — the district that the plaintiffs argued best illustrates the state’s arbitrary actions in dealing with plans to reopen. Where the first day featured Hillsborough School Board member Tamara Shamburger complaining about the state’s overreach, the second day brought special education teacher Lindsey Arthur, who said remote learning set her students back.
She said her students struggled with the online model, if they even participated. As a result, they regressed academically and emotionally.
The answer, Arthur suggested, is to return to in-person education. Students need to be with their teachers and friends to grow, she said.
“I think it will be normal,” she said. “I empathize with those who have concerns. But I feel if we follow all the guidelines … I do feel safe.”
To further that point, the defense introduced two parents — a mom from Orlando with a gifted son, and a mom from Palm Beach Gardens with a son who has autism.
Each explained how the time away from school created problems for their children, despite their efforts to help them succeed in classes from home.
Jennifer Tribble, of Orlando, shared how her gifted son found remote learning unchallenging, and struggled to pay attention. Her other son, who has reading difficulties, went backwards in his abilities, she said.
Meanwhile, the isolation made them lonely and inactive, she said.
“It is hard to get them out of the house to do anything,” Tribble said. “They are both very excited to go back to school.”
Laura Pope, whose teenage son has autism, said being out of school was fine for him for the first week or two. After that, he had lost his usual routine and his progress was derailed. Now he’s more anxious than before, she said.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/educa...o-reopen-florida-schools-state-witnesses-say/
The message delivered Thursday in defense of Florida’s school reopening order differed little from the words Gov. Ron DeSantis has repeated for weeks: Children need face-to-face learning, and the risks of COVID-19 are not great enough to take away that opportunity.
A steady stream of parents, teachers, health experts and government officials hammered home that point as witnesses under the guided questioning of lawyers for the state. Defending against a lawsuit filed by Florida’s teachers union, they aimed to convince Leon County Judge Charles Dodson not to halt the order requiring schools to provide in-person classes by the end of August.
Related: Florida teachers make their case in court: Keep schools closed for now
Dodson, who heard testimony favoring the injunction on Wednesday, plans to hear closing arguments on Friday and issue an opinion early next week.
He has a lot of information to weigh.
Like the first day’s hearing, Thursday began with a witness from Hillsborough County — the district that the plaintiffs argued best illustrates the state’s arbitrary actions in dealing with plans to reopen. Where the first day featured Hillsborough School Board member Tamara Shamburger complaining about the state’s overreach, the second day brought special education teacher Lindsey Arthur, who said remote learning set her students back.
She said her students struggled with the online model, if they even participated. As a result, they regressed academically and emotionally.
The answer, Arthur suggested, is to return to in-person education. Students need to be with their teachers and friends to grow, she said.
“I think it will be normal,” she said. “I empathize with those who have concerns. But I feel if we follow all the guidelines … I do feel safe.”
To further that point, the defense introduced two parents — a mom from Orlando with a gifted son, and a mom from Palm Beach Gardens with a son who has autism.
Each explained how the time away from school created problems for their children, despite their efforts to help them succeed in classes from home.
Jennifer Tribble, of Orlando, shared how her gifted son found remote learning unchallenging, and struggled to pay attention. Her other son, who has reading difficulties, went backwards in his abilities, she said.
Meanwhile, the isolation made them lonely and inactive, she said.
“It is hard to get them out of the house to do anything,” Tribble said. “They are both very excited to go back to school.”
Laura Pope, whose teenage son has autism, said being out of school was fine for him for the first week or two. After that, he had lost his usual routine and his progress was derailed. Now he’s more anxious than before, she said.
Althea
Althea told me...
Florida is worse because they could have learned from NY if they hadn't elected a moron as governor. Texas' governor wouldn't allow local leaders to mandate masks and distancing. What is wrong with these idiots?
They do not value human life. It's that simple. Their worship of Trump is more important.
more lies. they just keep on coming from you
Fauci lends support for reopening schools, in-person learning
https://www.wfla.com/community/heal...ort-for-reopening-schools-in-person-learning/