America Retreating from Religion

Jack said:
Trying to be objective here.
I know many, especially many here at JPP, view Evangelicals as the Highest Form of Western Civilization ... with Trump as their Spiritual Leader.
And with me forming a different opinion, I risk my life even muttering some opposition.


:nolovejesus: :(
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I view Catholics as the highest form of civilization.
 
Jack said:
Trying to be objective here.
I know many, especially many here at JPP, view Evangelicals as the Highest Form of Western Civilization ... with Trump as their Spiritual Leader.
And with me forming a different opinion, I risk my life even muttering some opposition.


:nolovejesus: :(
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I am pretty sure all of my writing on this thread has attempted to be objective, balanced, and reflect the historical record.

I consider white Christian nationalists and anti-science fundamentalist Protestants to mostly be at odds with liberal democracy.

Evangelicals are a loaded word which I do not find very helpful. Evangelicalism is an extremely broad tradition in Christianity which includes Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, but it also includes Jimmy Carter and Martin Luther King Jr.

As for televangelists, I do not even consider them real Christians. Joel Osteen never graduated college, never attended Divinity School, and has no training whatsoever in theology, ethics, Christian philosophy.
 
Jack said:
Yeah. I can't endorse any 'One Party' system. They may start off being 'good' but end up as Tyrants.
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Che Guevara was against rock & roll music even.
He was a racist & put LGBTQ people in camps.

But, as an Atheist Communist he's sometimes glorified by the Left.
 
Jack said:
Yes. A wonderful Caliphate. Headquartered in Rome. With a Supreme Ayatollah. Doesn't get much better than that. (shaking head)
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Delusional.

What wars, or genocides are Catholics currently entrenched in!?

It's mostly the Protestant USA, Orthodox Russia, Atheist China & Islamic states which are modern trouble makers.
 
Cypress said:
Maybe if I had nothing but free time on my hands. Aristotle's writing style is remarkably dry and painful to read. I would rather have an expert tell me about Aristotle.

It is probably a relic of my science college education. None of us ever actually read Einstein's original papers on special and general relativity - we learned about relativity and quantum mechanics from experts and text books.
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BidenPresident said:
Back to you crying like a sissy.
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You will not find one single reasonable fair minded person on this forum who will agree with that disingenuous assessment.

There are more ways to learn than reading original source material. I have never read the original research papers of Einstein or Niels Bohr, I have not read the Annalects of Confucius nor Baghavad Gita - but I have a better grasp of General Relativity, quantum mechanics, Confucianism, and Hindu scripture than you and 99% of message board posters. Because I learn from experts, classes, textbooks.

On the flip side, I do not know jack shit about the stock market or the federal reserve because it does not interest me.
 
Wolverine said:
Matter is made up of tiny particles called atoms and molecules.

What are the parts of an atom? Most atoms have three different subatomic particles inside them: protons, neutrons, and electrons. The protons and neutrons are packed together into the center of the atom (which is called the nucleus) and the electrons, which are very much smaller, whizz around the outside.

That whizzing around cause vibration. Vibration is sound, IE God spoke!
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Vibration is not sound. You seem to be referring to the Bohr model of the atom, which is no longer used in science. Whether you think God is an atom is your business.
 
Cypress said:
I accept your tacit concession that the chain of questioning you attempted neither discredited science, nor pointed to proof of a sentient, supernatural omniscient being
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Since it's not possible to prove a circular argument (or Argument of Faith) neither True nor False, it is not possible to prove whether any god or gods exist nor do not exist. Science is atheistic. It simply doesn't go there. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. it does not try to prove the existence or non-existence of any god or gods.
Cypress said:
Sidebar: Your atomic model is inadequate. The elementary particles constituting atoms are quarks, bosons, and leptons.
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This is wrong. The elementary particles constituting atoms are protons and neutrons. The elementary particles of protons, electrons, and neutrons are quarks. Bosons and leptons are essentially particles of energy, not matter. Electrons are a lepton.
Cypress said:
The only nexus with God is purported by some to be the Higgs Boson, aka the God particle.
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A quaint naming. But then, little is really known about this particle.
 
RomanDmowski said:
I view Catholics as the highest form of civilization.
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Religion isn't in and of itself civilization. It is certainly part of civilization, but it does not itself define civilization. There is no quantitative value in civilization. Nothing is 'higher' or 'lower'. It's simply different.
 
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