^^ Levtitcus. I never understood why some people get mad at Christians for what Jews wrote in the Tanakh, aka Hebrew Bible, i.e. Old Testament.
Leviticus is old Jewish Law, and Christians under the new covenent of the NT are not required to follow, obey, or live by Jewish law written in Levtitcus. Paul made it crystal clear that Christians do not have to follow or obey Jewish Law. To the extent mainstream Christians revere the old Testament, it is mainly for it's perceived prophetic statements foreshadowing the coming of the Christ.
Agreed. Not just the US, but all of Western Civilization meaning the Euros and the Russians.
No, you didn't read it, and no, you didn't understand it. I don't dispute that Christianity influenced our laws, I dispute that Christianity was in any way the first to come upon the idea of "honoring thy mother and father."I did read and understand your post. Your problem is a lack of honesty and forum debating skills. A noted weakness at your alma mater.
Correct, junior lawyer, that it's not codified in law. That's not what is being discussed. All of Western law has Christian precepts in it. Be honest and admit it. We can also admit that it's irrelevant since we also have a separation of Church and State. Not as clearly codified, but it's been upheld by SCOTUS.
That is why I said mainstream Christians.#1, I grew up in the evangelical Christian church, and they sure as shit had Leviticus in the OT in that book in every pew.
#2, Jesus said he came to confirm the law, so I think there's dispute about your whole "Christians can forget the OT" theory. Also, MILLIONS of xtians follow the OT and quoted it during gay civil rights (and for that matter black civil rights).
So THAT'S why we "get mad" at Christians for trafficking in their iron-age, misogynistic, racist, murderous bullshit.
Since when liking someone of the same sex a "sexual immorality"?
That is why I said mainstream Christians. Mainstream Protestants, Catholic, Orthodox.
Paul's epistles in the New Testament explicitly state the nature of the new covenant, and historically mainstream Christians were neither expected nor required to follow Jewish law in Levtitcus, Deuteronomy, et al.
On the flip side, OT Ethics like ten commandments has influence with Christians. And the prophetic value of the Hebrew Bible is revered by Christians.
I never went to a bible thumper fundamentalist church, and am unaware if they believe they have to follow Jewish law, aka Leviticus. Bible thumpers tend to not be well read, and most of their preachers never had any rigorous theological training at seminary or divinity school. So it would not surprise me that they do not have a grasp on mainstream Christian theology
Liking and a crush are two different things, and you know it! Homosexuality is a plague on mankind, so is Bi sexuality and acting like a different sex!
You're right, all of these non-denominational fundies are/were incredibly stupid and ignorant. Unfortunately, that's who my parents chose to expose me to early on, and part of me thanks them for that, as it backfired, and I am now inoculated against all religious bullshit.
I think you SEVERELY underestimate the # of Christians in the U.S. who subscribe to the fundy set of values, including OT, fire-and-brimstone, hate-filled christianity. Have you ever wondered why it took more than 40 years after Stonewall for gays to have the right to marry? Have you ever wondered why they're STILL not afforded federally-protected rights to be free from jobs/housing discrimination?'
It's because the fundies have a stranglehold on christianity in the U.S. They represent a plurality. Not Catholics, not protestants. Evangelicals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evang...Center,mainline Protestants were 14.7 percent.
#1, I grew up in the evangelical Christian church, and they sure as shit had Leviticus in the OT in that book in every pew.
#2, Jesus said he came to confirm the law, so I think there's dispute about your whole "Christians can forget the OT" theory. Also, MILLIONS of xtians follow the OT and quoted it during gay civil rights (and for that matter black civil rights).
So THAT'S why we "get mad" at Christians for trafficking in their iron-age, misogynistic, racist, murderous bullshit.
You're right, all of these non-denominational fundies are/were incredibly stupid and ignorant. Unfortunately, that's who my parents chose to expose me to early on, and part of me thanks them for that, as it backfired, and I am now inoculated against all religious bullshit.
I think you SEVERELY underestimate the # of Christians in the U.S. who subscribe to the fundy set of values, including OT, fire-and-brimstone, hate-filled christianity. Have you ever wondered why it took more than 40 years after Stonewall for gays to have the right to marry? Have you ever wondered why they're STILL not afforded federally-protected rights to be free from jobs/housing discrimination?'
It's because the fundies have a stranglehold on christianity in the U.S. They represent a plurality. Not Catholics, not protestants. Evangelicals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evang...Center,mainline Protestants were 14.7 percent.
Mainstream Christianity has been right wing since Reagan in 1980.
Exhibit A, Cypress.
He represents a plurality of Xtians in America today. In other words, "mainstream."
Indeed.
And I'm increasingly blaming the "moderate" Christians for this. Like MLK said, the moderates may be the biggest enemy to those fighting for change. Those who claim "xtianity is about New Testament love in this Country" are being disingenuous.
Fundies rule the roost. It's time for moderate christians to cleave them off, but instead they deny they exist. They're ALL to blame.
Indeed.
And I'm increasingly blaming the "moderate" Christians for this. Like MLK said, the moderates may be the biggest enemy to those fighting for change. Those who claim "xtianity is about New Testament love in this Country" are being disingenuous.
Fundies rule the roost. It's time for moderate christians to cleave them off, but instead they deny they exist. They're ALL to blame.
Explain what is hate filled!
Like the GOP defending Rep. Marjorie Grene.
lol, fuck off.
As do the DNC, with Ohmar, AOC, and Talib, all anti semetic scum!
Fuck you Trump people. Get used to it. I have no tolerance for you.
Another hypocrite, it's cool their are a bunch of you on here!