NEA approves a plan to promote critical race theory in all school districts

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner
You believe wrong. You are applying both the Historian's and Baconian fallacy to history to present a case that uses Presentism to argue for CRT. What your argument boils down to is, In the past America had institutional and systemic racism. Therefore it must have institutional and systemic racism today.



What part was funny or wrong dumb fuck? :palm:
 
Bad example. The new owner should have known what he was buying. In choosing to do so, he should have known that repairs and upgrades would be necessary to make the hotel accessible to disabled people.

Of course he knows that.


So, the current owner(s) are in the position they are in through incompetence, not past discrimination.

What is the incompetence?


In the past there were practices that discriminated. Those practices have been outlawed or otherwise made socially unacceptable.

Not at all.

Wells Fargo Discrimination Settlement. Wells Fargo has agreed to make job offers to 580 applicants and pay $7.8 million in back wages and interest to settle allegations of hiring discrimination by the U.S. Department of Labor.
https://www.kingsleykingsley.com/we...go has agreed to,the U.S. Department of Labor.

That wasn't even a year ago.
 
And we know that racism isn't inherent, it's taught. So if it's taught, that means it's institutionalized.

That's some of the dumbest logic I have seen. Our schools aren't teaching racism you moron. That is learned in the home.

But now, dimwitted wonder dumbasses like you think racism should be institutionalized and that every thing should be through the prism of what color your skin is. Idiots like you are the definition of racism. Martin Luther King, a greater thinker then all the leftists on the planet, is turning in his grave right now.

Only the dumbest among us can believe the Marxist dogma BS that is CRT.
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We should teach the truth. We were and still are a racist country and we should deal with it. It is wise to teach about slavery and how it still lingers. We moved from institutionalized slavery via a terrible war. Then blacks were mistreated from then on. The voting laws and Jim Crow are great examples. Redlining and inferior school systems still exist. We won't get better if we keep lying to ourselves.
 
Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner
You believe wrong. You are applying both the Historian's and Baconian fallacy to history to present a case that uses Presentism to argue for CRT. What your argument boils down to is, In the past America had institutional and systemic racism. Therefore it must have institutional and systemic racism today.




What part was funny or wrong dumb fuck? :palm:

This one: "In the past America had institutional and systemic racism. Therefore it must have institutional and systemic racism today."

Nobody claimed that.
 
If they still exist, they too can be dealt with as they come up, just like those that already have been.

If they still exist, that means they're institutionalized.


The wrong way to go about it is what CRT and like "theories" do. They look for every possible angle of discrimination whether it exists or not.

Nope. Not what CRT does at all. You don't seem to know anything about it because you've never learned anything about it. You're projecting your own guilty conscience onto something that has absolutely nothing to do with your personal feelings.


They even make up scenarios of potential discrimination where none exists and include those. They then seek remedies that will eliminate each and every one of these.

OK, so now's the part where you need to cite that, which you have consistently failed to do when asked.

What you do instead is claim that it's an ad hominem attack to expect you to back up what you're saying.

You avoid accountability like you should have avoided COVID.


Worse yet, there comes afterwards a cottage industry that makes their living seeking out any and all failures to meet those rules, often due to nothing more than accidental ignorance of some point of detail in them.

What you are so mad about is accountability. You want to be able to say whatever stupid shit you want without having to face consequences for it.


I know enough about the ADA that building to its regulations can be a nightmare of complexity and economic burden. It is also easy to find ADA violations in almost any building, particularly government ones that don't undergo regular inspection by outside agencies. None of that is intentional discrimination, and it certainly isn't best handled by heavy handed bludgeoning of persons with good intentions but little or no knowledge of the complex rules they fall under.

You...you think structural racism is done with good intentions?
 
Of course he knows that.

Then why didn't he do something about it? (per your example). The remedy was known and available.

What is the incompetence?
The fact that he didn't do what was needed. Unless, this owner too is discriminating based on his own economic status. That is, he wants to run the hotel. He doesn't mind having disabled stay there, but he is knowingly unwilling to make the necessary upgrades to accommodate them due to the cost of those upgrades, something he knew he'd need to do when he purchased the building.

Not at all.

Wells Fargo Discrimination Settlement. Wells Fargo has agreed to make job offers to 580 applicants and pay $7.8 million in back wages and interest to settle allegations of hiring discrimination by the U.S. Department of Labor.
https://www.kingsleykingsley.com/we...go has agreed to,the U.S. Department of Labor.

That wasn't even a year ago.

This appears to be a case of the complexity of the law coming back to bite Wells Fargo in the ass.

Wells Fargo's agreement with the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) stemmed from the office's routine review of the company's hiring data from six to 10 years. The review discovered lower selection rates for Black people, especially when it came to some teller, customer service and personal and phone banker positions. Hispanics were generally the group with the highest selection rates, reflecting the need for Spanish-language skills in certain customer service roles. Wells Fargo has said they have set up a team that is focused on diverse talent and increasing partnerships with diverse institutions including black colleges and universities.
(from the article)

This doesn't address why Wells Fargo selected Blacks at a lower rate for some positions. It makes one qualification they desired clear: That Spanish speaking employees were desirable due to their customer base. That isn't racial discrimination but rather simply hiring persons with certain skills the company wanted to meet their customer's needs better. The last sentence smacks of the smell of quotas which are highly racist in their nature.
It seems to me that this is the sort of legal complexity I was pointing out. The laws rather than being a remedy have instead created new forms of racism and discrimination.
 
No, I'm being accurate.

No, you're avoiding because you don't want to have to answer the questions that will undermine your argument.

What in this is an ad hominem attack? Show your work:

What conditions?

How is this ad hominem? It's asking you to clarify what you said because what you said was vague and broad.

And where are those conditions delineated?

So where's the ad hominem here? Or do you consider it an ad hominem attack when someone asks you about your own beliefs and positions without making sure your ego is stroked?

This feels like you are trying to set goalposts that you'll eventually move.

So how is this an ad hominem attack? You're trying to establish some kind of standard for these "conditions" that really seems to be supported by nothing other than your personal feelings.

Race is always present.

How is this an ad hominem attack?

A Black person cannot turn off the color of their skin, neither can a white person.

Again, what is ad hominem about this?

And we know that racism isn't inherent, it's taught. So if it's taught, that means it's institutionalized. Otherwise, you have to argue that people are born to be racist, which CRT does not say, despite you claiming it does without evidence.

So where's the insult here?

So right here you are admitting that prejudices and biases are applied, which means race IS present, contradicting what you said in literally the sentence before.

And again, how is this ad hominem? You literally said that those prejudices and biases are applied, which would mean its structural, right? Because to where are they being applied and how?
 
Then why didn't he do something about it? (per your example).

How could he have, he didn't own or build it first?

It's his responsibility to correct it, though, and that seems to be what you have a problem with.

You don't believe he has that responsibility because he's not the one who did anything wrong. But that's bullshit because it's his hotel now, so he has to correct the mistakes of the past, and he can't do that by pretending they don't have an impact today.
 
Provide me a single k-12 curriculum with CRT as a part of it. Go ahead.

Critical Race Theory Isn’t a Curriculum. It’s a Practice. Dumb fuck.

An outraged parent in Peoria, Arizona, exposed critical race theory curriculum taught in the school district and paid for by the NFL in partnership with the Arizona School Board Association.

"306: Continuing the Story," a digital course for middle school and high school students that "uses counter storytelling to reveal Black experiences that are not often told..." or have been "purposefully silenced,"

The online "cultural literacy" lessons, which the "est fit is 8-12 grades," offer continuation of the "306: African-American History" course. The class draws connections between historical events from the Civil Rights era to modern day

Lesson 3 of the Diversity Foundations unit "explore the concepts of power, privilege, oppression, discrimination and racism," according to EverFi's informational sheet. Students are prompted to reflect on "bias and unconscious bias."

Lesson 4 introduces students to "microaggressions, colorism, and othering" plus "the importance of ally behavior."
The digital resource "establishes the importance of ally behavior, self-care, and creating inclusive spaces," the memo states online.


https://thepostmillennial.com/watch...iculum-in-arizona-schools-paid-for-by-the-nfl

Entire California School System to Partner with Critical Race Theory Apologists

California State Superintendent of Public Education Tony Thurmond said in an interview, “We are going to build a training module to allow school districts to engage in training on implicit bias.” He also announced California’s partnership with the National Equity Project (NEP), which trains educators on how to handle inequity in their schools and communities.

A recent post by NEP Executive Director LaShawn Routé Chatmon states:

With structural inequities laid bare by the coronavirus pandemic, now worsened by further evidence of racial terror being waged against Black bodies… We can no longer deny the violence, pain and loss that is being disproportionately beset upon Black people and Black communities. . . .

As a former history teacher, I know that these are not isolated incidents but rather a continuation of a long history of anti-Black oppression our communities have had to endure. Its roots are structural and interrelated; our education, healthcare, and justice systems are equally imbued with the same roots of white supremacy and othering.

https://www.realclearpublicaffairs....cal_race_theory_in_k-12_education_498969.html
 
The fact that he didn't do what was needed.

How do you know he didn't do what was needed? Did you miss this part:

So although the people currently running it are not actively discriminating, they are operating a system designed to discriminate, and need to fix it even if they aren't to blame for it.

So...what are you talking about?


Unless, this owner too is discriminating based on his own economic status.

All that has been said of the new owner is that they bought a hotel that doesn't accommodate the disabled, so they need to fix it so that it does.

Would you, TA, personally not fix the hotel to accommodate disabled people if you were the owner? I don't know. Based on your answers, it would seem like you didn't think you bore any responsibility to fix the mistakes of the previous owner...philosophically speaking, of course.


That is, he wants to run the hotel. He doesn't mind having disabled stay there, but he is knowingly unwilling to make the necessary upgrades to accommodate them due to the cost of those upgrades, something he knew he'd need to do when he purchased the building.

Hold on a second...who said they weren't wiling to make the necessary upgrades? Here's the paragraph again, show your work:

Imagine a guy who hates disabled people builds a hotel, so he bans all disabled people, and builds it in such a way as to specifically make access difficult for them. Years later he sells the hotel to a new owner who has no problem with disabled people. So you have a hotel where the owner has no problem with the disabled, and neither do any of the staff...however due to the actions of the previous owner, the hotel is still built in such a way that it doesn't accommodate them (no disabled parking, no ramps, no extra considerations, etc.). So although the people currently running it are not actively discriminating, they are operating a system designed to discriminate, and need to fix it even if they aren't to blame for it.

All this paragraph states is that it's the new owner's responsibility to fix the problems from the past owner, even if the new owner isn't to blame for the past one.

For some reason, you have a problem with that.

In this scenario, with your argument against CRT applied here, you wouldn't want the new owner to even talk about how the hotel didn't accommodate the disabled before they bought it.

So if they can't talk about how it did that, they certainly can't fix it, can they?
 
This doesn't address why Wells Fargo selected Blacks at a lower rate for some positions

Of course we know why...that's what the settlement is about.

It makes one qualification they desired clear: That Spanish speaking employees were desirable due to their customer base. That isn't racial discrimination but rather simply hiring persons with certain skills the company wanted to meet their customer's needs better. The last sentence smacks of the smell of quotas which are highly racist in their nature.

If Wells Fargo didn't have racist hiring practices, then they would have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever settled.

But they did.

Why?
 
Critical Race Theory Isn’t a Curriculum. It’s a Practice. Dumb fuck.

An outraged parent in Peoria, Arizona, exposed critical race theory curriculum taught in the school district and paid for by the NFL in partnership with the Arizona School Board Association.

"306: Continuing the Story," a digital course for middle school and high school students that "uses counter storytelling to reveal Black experiences that are not often told..." or have been "purposefully silenced,"

The online "cultural literacy" lessons, which the "est fit is 8-12 grades," offer continuation of the "306: African-American History" course. The class draws connections between historical events from the Civil Rights era to modern day

Lesson 3 of the Diversity Foundations unit "explore the concepts of power, privilege, oppression, discrimination and racism," according to EverFi's informational sheet. Students are prompted to reflect on "bias and unconscious bias."

Lesson 4 introduces students to "microaggressions, colorism, and othering" plus "the importance of ally behavior."
The digital resource "establishes the importance of ally behavior, self-care, and creating inclusive spaces," the memo states online.


https://thepostmillennial.com/watch...iculum-in-arizona-schools-paid-for-by-the-nfl

Entire California School System to Partner with Critical Race Theory Apologists

California State Superintendent of Public Education Tony Thurmond said in an interview, “We are going to build a training module to allow school districts to engage in training on implicit bias.” He also announced California’s partnership with the National Equity Project (NEP), which trains educators on how to handle inequity in their schools and communities.

A recent post by NEP Executive Director LaShawn Routé Chatmon states:

With structural inequities laid bare by the coronavirus pandemic, now worsened by further evidence of racial terror being waged against Black bodies… We can no longer deny the violence, pain and loss that is being disproportionately beset upon Black people and Black communities. . . .

As a former history teacher, I know that these are not isolated incidents but rather a continuation of a long history of anti-Black oppression our communities have had to endure. Its roots are structural and interrelated; our education, healthcare, and justice systems are equally imbued with the same roots of white supremacy and othering.

https://www.realclearpublicaffairs....cal_race_theory_in_k-12_education_498969.html


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