True. He also wanted to regulate the media and declared it an enemy of the people. Don't be like Donald.
Should OAN be Removed from the Airwaves in Order to Protect Our Democracy?
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True. He also wanted to regulate the media and declared it an enemy of the people. Don't be like Donald.
There are limitations to free speech. Are they online insurrectionists or trying to create them? It certainly appears that way. I would warn them that they are going too far. Rightys are all talk. But if they are organizing to destroy the country, they should be dealt with firmly.
Organizing to commit an illegal act is not free speech/press. I remember when liberals were big supporters of free speech, now many are turning into fascists and want to take stations off the air because of far-fetched claims of limitations on free speech.
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Yes and those limitations are ones of anything against the State. Glad we can be in agreement.
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OAN is growing and CNN is shrinking. As it should be.
Suck your own dogs asshole.....you're good at that I heard.
I don't know anyone that wants to be like Trump! He's a A-hole scumbucket.con artist.
Sure I can.
Fox News is trying to spread coronavirus, which has killed 620,000 people in the US.
Freedom of speech does not protect you from manslaughter.
So you believe the vaccine is political, and you believe coronavirus is political.
Silly me, I thought a vaccine was a vaccine and a virus is a virus....what is political about either, Flash?
Only because of advertiser standards.
When that lie leads to an insurrection, absolutely.
What do you think?
I think all democrats should be removed from tv radio and papers to protect america
They don't want to be like Trump but they are acting just like him wanting to suppress media opposition. Oppression of free speech and press are equally evil whether they come from Trump or Trump haters.
There is nothing political about the virus. There is also nothing preventing many other sources from presenting alternative views. People don't get all their news from Fox. Taking them off the air is a stupid fascist proposal that violates the Constitution and every democratic principle.
The topic was not Fox but One American News.
False. First, you cannot restrict that speech after the fact. It is too late. You cannot punish that speech because any restrictions on "incitement" are not only hard to prove but don't apply to the media because of the requirements.
The "lie" did not lead to insurrection. It took people acting upon their own to create an insurrection. Because it was based on believing the lie does not mean the lie can be restricted.
We have already established your lack of knowledge on constitutional law dealing with speech and press. Quit wasting your time.
OK, but you said there was:
What alternative views? We're talking about a vaccine and a pandemic.
People don't, but Conservatives do.
How so? They're actively trying to get people killed by spreading dangerous misinformation.
So they're a threat to national security...unless you don't think biological terrorism is a threat....?
A distinction without difference.
Sure you can.
People end up in jail for incitement all the time.
It's not hard to prove in this case (a majority and bipartisan group of Senators thought it was), and it does apply to the media since they're the ones spreading the lie.
Of course it did...without the lie, there's no need for the rally.
Trump literally invited them using the lie:
No, it was planned.
Everyone there knew exactly what it was.
Everyone there knew exactly what they were going to do.
Trump told them literally what to do when they were there.
Yes, it absolutely can.
The lie is a threat to national security, clearly.
When it comes to national security, the government can pull anyone it wants off the street and rendition them to a Black Site by calling them an enemy combatant. So our Constitution doesn't apply to them.
We absolutely and legally can detain Fox News anchors indefinitely in Guantanamo Bay by calling them enemy combatants for organizing and supporting an insurrection...it just takes the political will to do so.
I don't understand what is political about the vaccine that you think what Fox News and the rest are doing is simply political opposition?
You would need to explain how the vaccine is political, and who is making it political.
Free speech has its limits, and spreading misinformation about vaccines and a virus has already led to thousands of needless and pointless deaths.
You think everything is free speech, but it's not.
What do you think?
Sure so long as you also remove all other so-called news outlets.
But of course that would violate the First Amendment so I guess its out.
No I didn't. The fascist proposal to take a television station off the air was the suppression of free press, not the content of the messages.
If there is no alternate does that must mean the Fox view is correct? If the Fox view is not correct, there must be alternate views.
If you take Fox off the air they will just turn to worse conservative sources. You have accomplished nothing.
BS. Democracy and free speech and press give us the right to spread any information we want. People don't have to believe it and with 49% of Americans vaccinated most are choosing to get the vaccine.
"National security" and "biological terrorism" are just hyperbolic scare tactics trying to establish a basis for suppressing freedom of expression. Soon it will be any political opposition. No different than Trump, Hitler, Mao, or Castro. They all claim to limit freedom in the "interest" of the people.
You have obviously never watched OAN.