Hiroshima, 6 August 1945

[ThatOwlWoman]

Yes. My opinions aren't meant to criticize those who lived at that time and either went to war or worked behind the scenes. They had no say-so in what the PTB decided.

No, they didn't. But they did what had to be done -- won the war so that the Nazis and the Imperialists in Japan were finally stopped.

As far as the doomed cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki go, the one good thing that came out of the use of those weapons was the knowledge of how horrific they are. 76 years have since passed and we humans have yet to use them again, and I hope that we never will.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I always got the impression they were glad to have defeated the Germans which kept the two allied forces occupied until then. And in meeting their battlefield allied counterparts, they celebrated because they were that much closer to going home.

Agreed. It's a natural reaction to congratulate your allies once the war is won. Everyone can go home. The Soviets made a quick land grab from Japan, something still disputed, but otherwise did little to win the war with Japan.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Doormat Owl. You won't lift a finger or spare a nickel to support a Surgical Strike on Assad after he kills women and children with horrific and inhuman outlawed chemical weapons, what would you call yourself? 'Pacifist' is probably too dignified a word for you.

Go troll someone else, Jack the armchair Rambo.

 

[Sailor]

Those slurs were created and used to make them feel better about killing their fellow human beings.

Are you referring to the Japanese in WWII?

 

[Trumpy]

She is an excellent puppet master.

Got it.

You are the shot caller.

 

[christiefan915]

Thanks. Did you ever read Hersey's "Hiroshima"? If not, it is first-hand accounts of six survivors' experiences not only that day, but the following weeks and months afterwards.

I haven't read it but it's going on The List.

 

[AProudLefty]

Got it.

You are the shot caller.

Yep. Even Damocles is my puppet.

Haw haw ..... haw!

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,

Yes, it is. Sadly some of us here are incapable of that and have to resort to their usual misogynist put-downs and lies.

It does require a rigid stance behind a strict ignore policy. That requires purposely changing habits, not easy to do.

I also have a personal rule that I do not talk about people on my Ignore List. I figure I owe them that if I won't respond to anything they say. They essentially just disappear from the forum as far as I am concerned. Nothing more than a chore to scroll past the place-holders, sometimes a page at a time...

But that makes it easy for me to cover a lot of ground in a shorter time, and only focus on civil discourse. I am totally spoiling myself by being so selective, I know, but I also got completely out of the habit of being nasty and insulting IRL. It has to do with the way human habits work. Do something on a regular basis and it becomes habit, like it or not. Understanding how that works gives one the power to begin or end habits, good or bad.

I like to have control over my habits. I like to ask myself: Are you in control of your habits? Or are they controlling you.

Well, the answer is always a little of both. We humans are creatures of habit. But we don't always have to be.

I just like to pick out a few and see if I can adjust things to live a more peaceful and low stress life. I have become a person who can talk about politics with anybody without getting mad, (and one who knows when to back off when others do,) and a much more patient, courteous and safe driver.

As a result, I LOVE my life! Life is fabulous! Life is what you make it, and mine is wonderful. I wish everyone could be as happy as I am. There would certainly be a lot fewer problems in the world if that was the case.

 

[Bulletbob]

As I said, don't try thinking. You're not good at it. If there is NOTHING that I will fight for, why I am here right now fighting with an Internet troll from New Orleans?

thats because your a cunt

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,



I wanted the people behind 911 brought to justice. It was a terrible crime, not a military attack. No nation attacked us. It was terrorism carried out by a rogue group. That group and it's leader were our enemy, not the Taliban.

I disagreed with the Afghanistan War before we ever started it, and always have. Now, it's looking like another Vietnam, another failure, a US hopeless military blunder, (forced by dumb civilian decision making) another example to the world that our forces can't simply go in and dominate a low-tech un-uniformed gang of hidden combatants that mixes with the local civilian public.

The Taliban was a nation giving them protection. We couldn't take down al-Qaeda without going through the Taliban government of Afghanistan...so we did..in about 6 weeks IIRC. After that it was guerrilla warfare. I'll look it up. LOL

Taking governments down, for the US, is relatively easy. Winning the hearts and minds could use more work.

 

[christiefan915]

Two main things: resources and religions. Nowadays it seems to be all about money.

I always looked at so-called religious wars as a cover for greediness.

 

[Jack]

Your ego has been bruised and wounded plenty of times so yeah it's fighting.

Nothing here fazes me. This is 'banter'. Watching Doormat Owl getting her panties in a wad is fun. A bombing Japan was the right thing to do for a number of reasons.
The clincher for me was a conversation I had with the wife of the Owner of a Laundromat (she was from Japan and lived during the War). She told me that the Japanese civilians were starving to death. The Military got all the food for the War effort, but the civilians were starving. She said A bombing Japan was the best thing that could have happened.

 

[christiefan915]

My take is that she was highlighting the fact that some Deplorable scolded me for not understanding how evil the Japanese were and how they got what was coming to them -- when in fact my parents, aunt, and grandparents lived under a Japanese military occupation.

The moral of the story is that armchair warriors comfortably ensconced in their recliner are often the first to holler about nuking Mecca or Tokyo.

Exactly right.

 

[AProudLefty]

Nothing here fazes me. This is 'banter'. Watching Doormat Owl getting her panties in a wad is fun. A bombing Japan was the right thing to do for a number of reasons.
The clincher for me was a conversation I had with the wife of the Owner of a Laundromat (she was from Japan and lived during the War). She told me that the Japanese civilians were starving to death. The Military got all the food for the War effort, but the civilians were starving. She said A bombing Japan was the best thing that could have happened.

Of course. That is well known. They wanted it over with.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I haven't read it but it's going on The List.

The author was a journalist. The stories are told in typical dry, unemotional journalistic style. It makes what happened to them all the more chilling.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

The Taliban was a nation giving them protection. We couldn't take down al-Qaeda without going through the Taliban government of Afghanistan...so we did..in about 6 weeks IIRC. After that it was guerrilla warfare. I'll look it up. LOL

Taking governments down, for the US, is relatively easy. Winning the hearts and minds could use more work.

I'm no military expert, nor crime enforcement expert, so I am unqualified to say whether we made the right choices there. I would have hoped we could have used some kind of special forces surgical strike to get Al Qaida without taking on the entire Taliban.

The lessons were there. Russia tried it and had to give it up and pull out in shame after a long long time. We could have gone to school on that, but no. It's not a good look on us to be pulling out of unresolved conflicts that we started after years of losses.

 

[Trumpy]

Typical Trumper

As if that's a bad thing to anyone who abhors what the Leftist 'puppetous' Biden crew has done to America in record time.

Take your pick:

Made the border a crisis again after Trump had solved the problem.
Made us dependent on Mid-East oil once again after Trump made us energy independent and lowered gas prices to less than $2.00/gal.
Made violent crime spike by more than 25%.
Used Covid as a way to condition Americans to become submissive and/or dependent on the Govt.
Concealed the role that Govt. played in making Covid a weapon to use on US.
Turned us against each other.
Stole an election and worked to make the false narrative about it part of the official history.

And that's not the half of it.

You're damn right I'm a typical Trumper and proud of it.

 

[Jack]

Go troll someone else, Jack the armchair Rambo.

You've been thoroughly spanked on this one. Try to buck up. When the Christian Fascists try to take over, we need Warriors ... NOT Doormats!

 

[Jack]

Of course. That is well known. They wanted it over with.

It was News to me. A perspective I had never heard before and never thought about.

 

[Trumpy]

Jest.

There's a place for you to act as an interpreter after Trump returns to the WH.