Why are right wingers obsessed with abortion?

Cypress said:
Nobody actually believes a human being begins at the moment of conception.

The main reason so many righwing dudes are obsessed with female reproductive choice, is because female sexuality bothers them.

Either because they are INCELs, or because they are control freaks.
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If the law forces you to give birth, will the law pay for the child's expense including college?
 
BidenPresident said:
Uh huh. Nothing to do with my question. But....ok.
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Your question was "If it is not about religion it is hard to understand why they care."

I gave you the reason. For most I think their religious reasons are not really separate from their moral reasons. If they want to protect life they believe that is consistent with their religion.

Most religions are against murder (of adults) but people also oppose murder for moral reasons even if they are not religious. What difference does it make if it is religion?
 
Flash said:
Your question was "If it is not about religion it is hard to understand why they care."

I gave you the reason. For most I think their religious reasons are not really separate from their moral reasons. If they want to protect life they believe that is consistent with their religion.

Most religions are against murder (of adults) but people also oppose murder for moral reasons even if they are not religious. What difference does it make if it is religion?
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So, irrationality of religion. Got it.
 
AProudLefty said:
El, eloh or elohim.
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[h=2]#1.12 Hebrew אֱלֹהִים Htr. ’elōhîm, English Elohim[/h][FONT=&quot]Elohim is generally considered to be the plural of Eloah. Occasionally it is translated "the judges" (Exodus 21:6; 22:8-9), quite often "the gods" when referring to false gods (Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12; 18:11 etc.), but mostly translated "God", and used with singular verbs when referring to the one true God. This is commonly regarded as a plural of majesty, which is quite a common feature of the Hebrew language. It is used of Jesus in this plural form where it is translated, "O God" (Psalm 45:6), and where it is clearly being addressed to "the Son" (Hebrews 1:8). Therefore it does not prove a plurality of persons in the Godhead, as some have suggested.[/FONT][h=2]#1.13 Hebrew אֵל, Htr. ’ēl, English El[/h][FONT=&quot]El is an alternative term for God; occasionally translated "the mighty" (Psalm 82:1), "god" (Deuteronomy 32:12; Psalm 44:20; Malachi 2:11 etc.), "goodly" (Psalm 80:10), "idols" (Isaiah 57:5), "strong" (Ezekiel 32:21), but is mostly translated "God", referring to the one true God. It is so used in the compound names which follow.[/FONT][h=2]#2.1 THE COMPOUND NAMES USING "EL"[/h][h=2]#2.11 Hebrew אֵל עֶלְיוֹן Htr. ’ēl ‛elyôn, English El Elyon[/h][FONT=&quot]The name ’ēl ‛elyôn literally means "God supreme, or God most high", and is translated "the most high God" (Genesis 14:18-22; Psalm 78:35). This name was fulfilled by Jesus in the following scriptures:[/FONT]
 
Flash said:
No. Now states cannot prohibit abortion before 24 weeks. They can prohibit abortion after 24 weeks except when the mother's life is in danger. States can have their own laws after 24 weeks and different regulations between 3-6 months.
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don't really care
 
Celticguy said:
[h=2]#1.12 Hebrew אֱלֹהִים Htr. ’elōhîm, English Elohim[/h][FONT="][B]Elohim[/B] is generally considered to be the plural of [B]Eloah.[/B] Occasionally it is translated "the judges" ([URL="http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Exodus%2021.6"]Exodus 21:6[/URL]; 22:8-9), quite often "the gods" when referring to false gods (Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12; 18:11 etc.), but mostly translated "God", and used with singular verbs when referring to the one true God. This is commonly regarded as a plural of majesty, which is quite a common feature of the Hebrew language. It is used of Jesus in this plural form where it is translated, "O God" (Psalm 45:6), and where it is clearly being addressed to "the Son" (Hebrews 1:8). Therefore it does not prove a plurality of persons in the Godhead, as some have suggested.[/FONT][h=2]#1.13 Hebrew אֵל, Htr. ’ēl, English El[/h][FONT="][B]El[/B] is an alternative term for God; occasionally translated "the mighty" ([URL="http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Psalm%2082.1"]Psalm 82:1[/URL]), "god" (Deuteronomy 32:12; Psalm 44:20; Malachi 2:11 etc.), "goodly" (Psalm 80:10), "idols" (Isaiah 57:5), "strong" (Ezekiel 32:21), but is mostly translated "God", referring to the one true God. It is so used in the compound names which follow.[/FONT][h=2]#2.1 THE COMPOUND NAMES USING "EL"[/h][h=2]#2.11 Hebrew אֵל עֶלְיוֹן Htr. ’ēl ‛elyôn, English El Elyon[/h][FONT="]The name [B]’ēl ‛elyôn [/B]literally means "God supreme, or God most high", and is translated "the most high God" ([URL="http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Genesis%2014.18-22"]Genesis 14:18-22[/URL]; Psalm 78:35). This name was fulfilled by Jesus in the following scriptures:[/FONT]
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You are proving my point. Thank you.

In Genesis 1:1, the term is elohim. That means that gods created the heaven and the Earth.

The Jews do not believe in Jesus so that goes the theory.
 
gemini104104 said:
Right wingers are so twisted and demented,
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Projection.

gemini104104 said:
I don't think will ever get it and they cannot claim religion as a means of supporting their deranged stance on abortion at being an unGodly insurgency that wreaks of hypocrisy and moral atrocities.
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Sure they can, but they don't have to.

gemini104104 said:
Also, at being against abortions, repukes in their further hypocrisy are against services that supports women having children they cannot afford to support as a result of rape and incest to which repukes are a deplorable cause of rape and incest too.
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Try to stop foaming at the mouth for a second so that you can form a coherent thought for a change...
 
BidenPresident said:
don't really care
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of course not. those babies are messy and inconvenient. of course they can be murdered. right ?

remember murder in hebrew is the taking of innocent life.
what is more innocent than a baby ?

being messy and inconvenient is not ceasing to be innocent.

its murder most foul.
 
Celticguy said:
of course not. those babies are messy and inconvenient. of course they can be murdered. right ?

remember murder in hebrew is the taking of innocent life.
what is more innocent than a baby ?

being messy and inconvenient is not ceasing to be innocent.

its murder most foul.
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Not murder.
 
AProudLefty said:
You are proving my point. Thank you.

In Genesis 1:1, the term is elohim. That means that gods created the heaven and the Earth.

The Jews do not believe in Jesus so that goes the theory.
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you obviously didnt take time to read the translations. I'll act surprised.
 
BidenPresident said:
So, irrationality of religion. Got it.
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Most anti-abortion people do not see protecting life as irrational. If they see abortion as murder (morally) that does not make it any more irrational than murder laws after birth.

It is just a political decision whether government should have laws permitting or prohibiting abortion.
 
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