Top Ten States In COVID Deaths Per Million

PoliTalker said:
Hello McRocket,



I began the thread because I hoped it would stir a good discussion.

I wonder how many people realize how bad the pandemic has gotten.

There seems to be a huge outbreak in COVID fatigue, but now is no time to drop your guard.

One out of every 287 people is Mississippi is dead of COVID.

Hopefully the people in these high death states will take notice and redouble their safety efforts.
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Alright.

But you - and others like you - are just going to have to live with the fact that LOTS of people are simply not going to get the shots.
And that they have a perfect right NOT to get the shots if they do not want to.

I got both shots (largely because I have mild asthma).
But I would never dream of trying to force someone that didn't - to get them.

And the death rate for people under 50 and otherwise healthy is INCREDIBLY low.
Like lower than the odds of dying of the seasonal flu.
Why should they get the shot if they do not need them?
 
PoliTalker said:
1 Mississippi 3,479
2 Alabama 3,328
3 New Jersey 3,227
4 Louisiana 3,209
5 Arizona 3,207
6 New York 3,031
7 Arkansas 2,953
8 Georgia 2,911
9 Florida 2,896
10 West Virginia 2,881

USA Overall: 2,470

Are you seeing red?
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NO, I'M SEEING "BLACK" AS IN MINORITY POPULATIONS.



PLEASE COME BACK WHEN YOU CAN ACCURATELY CITE THE CO-MORBIDITIES....
 
PoliTalker said:
1 Mississippi 3,479
2 Alabama 3,328
3 New Jersey 3,227
4 Louisiana 3,209
5 Arizona 3,207
6 New York 3,031
7 Arkansas 2,953
8 Georgia 2,911
9 Florida 2,896
10 West Virginia 2,881

USA Overall: 2,470

Are you seeing red?
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Something is wrong with West Virginia's vaccination data in the Our World database.

On November 29th, the state had a vaccination rate of 41 percent. Worst in the nation.

Three weeks later their vaccination status supposedly leaped to over 70 percent.

No nation on earth has a vaccination rate increase at that rate.
 
Hello McRocket,

McRocket said:
Alright.

But you - and others like you - are just going to have to live with the fact that LOTS of people are simply not going to get the shots.
And that they have a perfect right NOT to get the shots if they do not want to.

I got both shots (largely because I have mild asthma).
But I would never dream of trying to force someone that didn't - to get them.

And the death rate for people under 50 and otherwise healthy is INCREDIBLY low.
Like lower than the odds of dying of the seasonal flu.
Why should they get the shot if they do not need them?
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Glad you got 2 shots. The current regimen is 3.

There is no Constitutional right to refuse shots. If a state wished to mandate that everyone in the state get the shots they would be perfectly within their Constitutional rights to do that. Even today's SCOTUS agrees. The precedent was set in the 1905 Jacobson decision. The right of the public to be safe from disease exceeds the right of the individual to refuse a mandated vaccine.

New York now requires all health care workers to get vaccinated. If you refuse you can't work. It would not surprise me if New York did impose a general mandate during the upcoming Omicron wave. Or at least follow in California's footsteps. Omicron stands the very real probability of blowing away any previously set numbers of cases. We currently have more active cases of COVID than we have ever had. Over 10 Million:

Active Covid Cases In The USA
Screenshot 2021-12-17 at 18-56-43 United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer.jpg
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If the only people that people under 50 are thinking of, is themselves, then that is an understandable response.

The problem is the same as the reason for creating distancing in schools. The young and healthy often don't even feel any symptoms and may not even know they have a case at all. Great for them. The problem is: That doesn't prevent them from passing the disease on to others who could end up dead.

So no, that is unacceptable. Individual right of freedom from mandates and social requirements does not overrule the public right to safety. It is actually the other way around.

Delta doubled the number of cases every 2-3 weeks.

Omicron is doing it in 3 days.

It looks like we are in for the likes of something we have not seen yet.
 
The difference is Biden is not responsible. He didn’t minimize the pandemic. Trump did, and the fallout from that is still with us.
 
McRocket said:
Alright.
I will put it another way.

Why are you starting this thread?
It looks like you are just trying to rub it in to anti-vaxxers.

Surely you know that they are not going to change their minds.
So what is the point of this?
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Politalker is head deacon at the Church of Branch Covidians.
 
Hello Cypress,

Cypress said:
Something is wrong with West Virginia's vaccination data in the Our World database.

On November 29th, the state had a vaccination rate of 41 percent. Worst in the nation.

Three weeks later their vaccination status supposedly leaped to over 70 percent.

No nation on earth has a vaccination rate increase at that rate.
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Something might have been wrong with their reporting system to hold up data for a while, and then release it. But that is the most favorable treatment the discrepancy could be given.

It is also possible that the number has been fudged.

I find it hard to believe that a mostly rural coal economy state which went strongly for Trump would achieve a high vaccination rate. Our resident poster from WV Darth has ceased posting, but while he was posting he strongly opposed vaccinations.

Hopefully, Darth is not now one of the statistics. Even though I disagreed with him, I wish him well. He was a civil poster to me and that's alright. I hope he's OK.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Cypress,



Something might have been wrong with their reporting system to hold up data for a while, and then release it. But that is the most favorable treatment the discrepancy could be given.

It is also possible that the number has been fudged.

I find it hard to believe that a mostly rural coal economy state which went strongly for Trump would achieve a high vaccination rate. Our resident poster from WV Darth has ceased posting, but while he was posting he strongly opposed vaccinations.

Hopefully, Darth is not now one of the statistics. Even though I disagreed with him, I wish him well. He was a civil poster to me and that's alright. I hope he's OK.
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I am not buying that rural West Virginia went from being the state with the lowest vaccination rate three weeks ago, to the state with one of the highest vaccination rates today.
 
Concart said:
The cost of the pandemic in financial terms in in the tens of billions of dollars. And it is going to get much worse now, because people refuse to be vaccinated. Anyone who asks 'what difference does it make to a vaccinated person' is uninformed and willfully ignorant.
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THANKS TO LYING MORONS LIKE YOU WHO CRASHED OPUT ECONOMY FOER NO GOOD REASON.


NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO DRUM UP MASS HYSTERIA AGAIN ,OVER THE OMICRON VARIANT, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE COMMON COLD.

NO ONE IS LISTENING TO YOU ASSHIOLES ANYMORE.
 
Hello Cypress,

Cypress said:
I am not buying that rural West Virginia went from being the state with the lowest vaccination rate three weeks ago, to the state with one of the highest vaccination rates today.
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It is pretty fishy.

We learn things from monitoring data.
 
We cannot trust a syllable that the Pres.Moron Adm., tells us about Covid..ever.

They have a vested interest in prolonging the pandemic via fear-mongering, and are desperately trying to do so, now with the harmless Omicron variant.
 
We cannot trust a syllable that the Pres.Moron Adm., tells us about Covid..ever.

They have a vested interest in prolonging the pandemic via fear-mongering, and are desperately trying to do so, now with the harmless Omicron variant.
 
PoliTalker said:
1 Mississippi 3,479
2 Alabama 3,328
3 New Jersey 3,227
4 Louisiana 3,209
5 Arizona 3,207
6 New York 3,031
7 Arkansas 2,953
8 Georgia 2,911
9 Florida 2,896
10 West Virginia 2,881

USA Overall: 2,470

Are you seeing red?
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LOL!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: Allllll the vaxxed now a year later are getting the next variant. They'll get over it. People who died, died WITH it, not FROM it. Folks love
to hang on to their morbidities so they catch the flu and die instead of naturally recovering..
94% of the the NFL got vaxxed..........now they're still coming down with this flu. They too will get over it.
Get a life. Florida's doing just fine.
 
Stretch said:
LOL!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: Allllll the vaxxed now a year later are getting the next variant. They'll get over it. People who died, died WITH it, not FROM it. Folks love
to hang on to their morbidities so they catch the flu and die instead of naturally recovering..
94% of the the NFL got vaxxed..........now they're still coming down with this flu. They too will get over it.
Get a life. Florida's doing just fine.
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62,000 of your fellow citizens beg to differ with you, Ms. Shitty Immune System. :laugh:

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With it, not from it. What's the link on the picture? LOL

GET OVER IT.....DAAAAAANG PEOPLE STILL WASTING THEIR LIVES IN HERE KVETCHING ABOUT THE FLU. GO GET HEALTHY AND GET A LIFE! :palm:
 
McRocket said:
Assuming you live in none of those states.

What's it to you what happens in them?
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Well, we are supposed to be the UNITED States, and those are our fellow citizens, are they not? Or are you one of those who thinks that an Reichwinger IMPOTUSx2 like Trump was right in not wanting to send aid to a blue state (California) during a natural disaster, because they didn't vote for him?

Your rationale here is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.
 
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