So, You Want $15 An Hour?

Concart said:
You're joking, right? 1.6 million unemployed. This is what I mean when I say you are completely incapable of nuance. The fact that you have chosen to focus on the micro elements and ignore the macroeconomic implications demonstrates that you don't understand business. Skin in the game is skin in the game. There are thousands of businesses that do the same, and it impacts every single taxpayer in a big way. You tried to toss an ad hom. You missed the strike zone by fifteen feet.
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All that bloviating, and you failed to answer the question.

The fact is that the impact on you, personally, would be minimal, at best...

New starting wages aren't going to cashiers? ROTFLFMAO!!!! Of course they are. You should probably quit when you are only a little behind.
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Are you really this stupid?

Wal-Mart isn't giving those wages to cashiers because the cashiers are being replaced with machines.

Now, run along, boy. You're dismissed...
 
We could solve simple poverty at the form of a non-statutory minimum wage via equal protection of our own at-will employment laws. Let's be legal to our own laws, what a concept (external to border threads.)
 
danielpalos said:
It is the left who are advocating for better solutions at lower cost. Mass production (for infrastructure) should be a science in modern times. And, nobody takes right-wingers seriously about economics or the law. Right-wingers project their errors and omissions onto others the Best.
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Dan. Stop with the 'Red Team/Blue Team' shit. Unproductive. 'Lower Costs' = Automation, Outsourcing, Importing Third World Labor.
All three affect the American Worker.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Nah, just having fun with the guy. He probably is a very popular kid in the sand box.
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I gotta watch out for you!

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Street Glider said:
If they come here legally I have no problem with it. I would imagine most Americans have ancestors who came from somewhere else. I know I do...
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Yeah, but Clinton and Obama brought like half of Somalia here and they're not compatible with the American Way.

In before parts of Minneapolis have to be white phosphoroused.

The man that grabbed a 5 year old from his mother and threw him over the rail from the 2nd story of a mall was Somalian.
 
Street Glider said:
Of course it is. But there has to be a balance.

I was riding home from Gainesville the other day, and there was construction going on. There was a guy standing there with one of those signs with "STOP" on one side and "SLOW" on the other. As I rode up and stopped, I lifted my visor and commented "Man, you must get bored out here just flipping that sign around." He responded "Hell, for $28 an hour I can deal with boredom." The guy gets $28 an hour just to flip a sign in a construction zone.

Someone demanding $15 an hour, for a job they know isn't worth $15 an hour, needs to be willing to negotiate and make concessions. Anyone unwilling to do that, and would rather make demands, is someone who should be out of a job...
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I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark and guess you don't believe in collective bargaining. That's the major reason why the guy with the sign makes more than the cashier at Walmart. It's hilarious that you think you are the judge of how much a particular skill is worth. You must have flunked econ 101. Every low wage restaurant, fast food chain and retail store is experiencing an acute labor shortage. It's called supply and demand. The supply of workers willing to risk exposure to a deadly disease for 12 bucks an hour is far short of the demand. Even with the taxpayer paying for benefits and income supplements for those workers. Employers should be prohibited from doing that, but I'm sure you do not support minimum wage or medicare for all. Which makes you a massive hypocrite when it comes to this discussion. You oppose anything that would hinder employers from paying low wages, and then claim that those jobs aren't worth a higher wage. Guess the worm is turning, huih?
 
Street Glider said:
All that bloviating, and you failed to answer the question.

The fact is that the impact on you, personally, would be minimal, at best...



Are you really this stupid?

Wal-Mart isn't giving those wages to cashiers because the cashiers are being replaced with machines.

Now, run along, boy. You're dismissed...
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So Walmart doesn't employ cashiers anymore? Holy Fuck, I had no idea. ROTFLMFAO!!!
 
Matt Dillon said:
Yeah, but Clinton and Obama brought like half of Somalia here and they're not compatible with the American Way.

In before parts of Minneapolis have to be white phosphoroused.

The man that grabbed a 5 year old from his mother and threw him over the rail from the 2nd story of a mall was Somalian.
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Yeah, some are not good.

But some Somalians are great...and it makes sense to accept them as immigrants. An Example: We got Ilhan Omar from there.
 
Concart said:
So Walmart doesn't employ cashiers anymore? Holy Fuck, I had no idea. ROTFLMFAO!!!
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Did you bother to read my OP?

Ten years ago there would be eight to ten cashier's at the front of the store. Three weeks ago there were two, and self-serve kiosks were handling the rest. Wal-Mart is moving towards 100% self-serve kiosks...
 
Concart said:
I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark and guess you don't believe in collective bargaining. That's the major reason why the guy with the sign makes more than the cashier at Walmart. It's hilarious that you think you are the judge of how much a particular skill is worth. You must have flunked econ 101. Every low wage restaurant, fast food chain and retail store is experiencing an acute labor shortage. It's called supply and demand. The supply of workers willing to risk exposure to a deadly disease for 12 bucks an hour is far short of the demand. Even with the taxpayer paying for benefits and income supplements for those workers. Employers should be prohibited from doing that, but I'm sure you do not support minimum wage or medicare for all. Which makes you a massive hypocrite when it comes to this discussion. You oppose anything that would hinder employers from paying low wages, and then claim that those jobs aren't worth a higher wage. Guess the worm is turning, huih?
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Medicare for all? Putting the government in charge of peoples' health is a bad idea that's been tried in Nazi Germany and the Soviet U.S.S.R.

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I ALWAYS use self checkout.

'...The research, conducted by delivery  management company  Whistl, found that the older generation who still favour human interaction when making purchases. 70% of over 45s prefer to speak to a human, compared to only 25% of 18-24 year olds. When it comes to gender split, 53% of men would opt for a self-service payment option, compared to 47% of women.'
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=most+young+people+prefer+self+serve+checkouts&atb=v1-1&ia=web
https://zoovu.com/blog/millennials-gen-z-expect-self-service/

I/they (I am middle aged) grew up on computers and doing things for themselves.
They don't want to waste time and energy dealing with people they don't know unless they have to.
Plus, self-service cuts down on operating costs.

Self service is clearly the future.
 
McRocket said:
I ALWAYS use self checkout.

'...The research, conducted by delivery  management company  Whistl, found that the older generation who still favour human interaction when making purchases. 70% of over 45s prefer to speak to a human, compared to only 25% of 18-24 year olds. When it comes to gender split, 53% of men would opt for a self-service payment option, compared to 47% of women.'
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=most+young+people+prefer+self+serve+checkouts&atb=v1-1&ia=web
https://zoovu.com/blog/millennials-gen-z-expect-self-service/

I/they (I am middle aged) grew up on computers and doing things for themselves.
They don't want to waste time and energy dealing with people they don't know unless they have to.
Plus, self-service cuts down on operating costs.

Self service is clearly the future.
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I like the Humanoids. I can engage in conversation with them.
 
Street Glider said:
So, you want $15 to start as a cashier at Wal-Mart?

I rarely go to Wal-Mart, but the last time I was there (about three weeks ago) there were two cashiers on duty, and eight self-service lanes open.

It's a smart move by Wal-Mart. At $15 an hour, eight cashier lanes running 17 hours a day (my local Wal-Mart is open from 6am-11pm) costs Wal-Mart $2,040 per day to operate. In just 2-1/2 days a single kiosk can pay for itself (they run around five grand a pop). The kiosk then no longer needs anything; no training, no time off, no breaks, no health insurance, no paid holidays; nothing.

This is where retail is headed. If we assume ten kiosks per store and an otherwise hourly wage of $15 an hour per soon-to-be-out-of-work cashier, once these kiosks pay for themselves (which would happen in rather short order) Wal-Mart will save a total of $2,550 per day in hourly wages. That's $17,850 per week, or $928,200 a year, and that's per store. Wal-Mart has approximately 10,500 stores. If this approach was put in place in all of their stores, Wal_Mart would save $9,746,100,00 per year.

Many retailers will follow Wal-Mart's lead. If the kiosk idea ultimately fails, Wal-Mart is large enough to absorb the loss. If it succeeds, though, other retailers will start adopting the use of kiosks instead of employing cashier's. Even the largest grocery stores (which are also currently employing self-serve kiosks) will be able to operate with far fewer employees.

This is just an observation based on what I've seen locally here in northeast Florida. I have to believe that northeast Florida is not unique...
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My local Walmart just put in a huge number of self-service checkout counters.
They had about 15-20.
Now they have about 35-40.
And I rarely see more than a few, human checkout lanes open now.

It's definitely the future.

Though I notice that the Walmarts in the wealthier areas tend to have more self-service checkouts.
In the lower income areas - it seems to be the opposite.
 
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