So, You Want $15 An Hour?

Frank Apisa said:
Okay...so you would vote for "let 'em starve and freeze to death."

Wouldn't get many volunteers for the job of "not working" that way. And one thing ya need is plenty of volunteers.
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Right-wingers can't seem to even be legal to the laws in their own alleged, Right to Work States.
 
Street Glider said:
But here's the thing: Those people will be out of the way whether they're paid to stay away or they're fired...
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Sounds like another vote for "let 'em starve and freeze to death."

Anyway...MANY of the people who help productivity best by not helping...

...ARE THE PEOPLE DOING THE FIRING...NOT THE PEOPLE BEING FIRED.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
Sounds like another vote for "let 'em starve and freeze to death."

Anyway...MANY of the people who help productivity best by not helping...

...ARE THE PEOPLE DOING THE FIRING...NOT THE PEOPLE BEING FIRED.
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Lemmeseehere...

Pay them so they don't do any work but I still get to give them money, or fire them so they don't do any work and I get to keep my money.

There's exactly zero benefit to the former...
 
danielpalos said:
So what. You are simply Wrong even though you are on the right. I must be Right even though I am on the left. See how easy it is when I don't need a valid argument.
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What is a fact is when you make people pay more for something they generally buy less of it or seek alternatives. I don't expect you to graps that so its ok
 
Street Glider said:
Lemmeseehere...

Pay them so they don't do any work but I still get to give them money, or fire them so they don't do any work and I get to keep my money.

There's exactly zero benefit to the former...
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So...you are saying the only solution to people volunteering not to work...is for YOU to pay them.

Okay...if that is what you see to be the case.

And as far as you are concerned, you will not do it, so you ARE voting for "Let 'em starve and freeze to death."

Okay...that is your right.
 
Frank Apisa said:
So...you are saying the only solution to people volunteering not to work...is for YOU to pay them.

Okay...if that is what you see to be the case.
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What's this "volunteers not to work" bullshit? We used to call that "quitting your job", and it should not ever be rewarded...

And as far as you are concerned, you will not do it, so you ARE voting for "Let 'em starve and freeze to death."
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I don't have the time to worry about every 22 year old acne-ridden child who ends up unemployed because his "demand" for a particular wage has been met with denial. I've got good employees to be concerned with. I'll focus my efforts on them...
 
Street Glider said:
What's this "volunteers not to work" bullshit? We used to call that "quitting your job", and it should not ever be rewarded...



I don't have the time to worry about every 22 year old acne-ridden child who ends up unemployed because his "demand" for a particular wage has been met with denial. I've got good employees to be concerned with. I'll focus my efforts on them...
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Okay, I get that.

So you are saying that it would be okay with you for people not working to starve or freeze to death.

I want you to know that I acknowledge you have a right to that position.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Okay, I get that.

So you are saying that it would be okay with you for people not working to starve or freeze to death.

I want you to know that I acknowledge you have a right to that position.
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Where in the flying fuck did you get that idea?

I never said I have no problem with that happening. It is not, however, my responsibility to ensure that it doesn't happen. That's up to the person who's out of work. Frankly, I know of many friends and family I could lean on if I ever found myself in such a state. I would suggest that someone else in that position do the same...
 
Street Glider said:
Lemmeseehere...

Pay them so they don't do any work but I still get to give them money, or fire them so they don't do any work and I get to keep my money.

There's exactly zero benefit to the former...
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You have more recourse to be a "Horrible Boss" if Labor has recourse to compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.
 
Yakuda said:
What is a fact is when you make people pay more for something they generally buy less of it or seek alternatives. I don't expect you to grasp that so its ok
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the public sector can create jobs by upgrading infrastructure that will help with supply-side economics purposes.
 
danielpalos said:
lol. How droll. Do you appeal to capital based concepts? Are you a socialist.
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So you can't answer the question or you don't understand the question? Which is it? It looks like what's happened is you read somewhere the govt could just print money and you thought you'd come here and talk stupid. It worked.
 
Yakuda said:
So you can't answer the question or you don't understand the question? Which is it? It looks like what's happened is you read somewhere the govt could just print money and you thought you'd come here and talk stupid. It worked.
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Do you appeal to ignorance of economics, thus capital based concepts? Why should anyone vote for right-wing Tax Cut economics that benefits the Richest the most under our form of Capitalism.
 
Street Glider said:
Where in the flying fuck did you get that idea?
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Easy, SG. I get it from your responses so far.

I never said I have no problem with that happening. It is not, however, my responsibility to ensure that it doesn't happen. That's up to the person who's out of work. Frankly, I know of many friends and family I could lean on if I ever found myself in such a state. I would suggest that someone else in that position do the same...
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But if they could not get anything...if they did not have the many friends and family they could lean upon...you would be okay with them starving and freezing to death...right?

YOU would not want them to receive aid from the government to provide the basics...food and shelter, for instance?

Just trying to be sure we are on the same page.
 
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