GOP Senator Lisa Murkowski: ‘I just don’t know how long I can stay in this party.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/us/politics/trump-plans-2025.html

He wants to become an authoritarian, and take power away from independent federal agencies. It's a nightmare scenario. And if he has Congress, which seems likely if he somehow wins, then there is nothing to stop him. Certainly not the Constitution. He can do anything he wants. And he wants to be 'President for life'. He's already said so. It can happen. It has to be stopped.

I don’t doubt it.
Pretty scary.
What’s really scary is that he looks like he will get nominated again easily.
I just don’t see him winning unless Biden croaks and Harris becomes the appointed nominee like Hubert Humphrey was.
That was a huge mistake the dems made in ‘68.
 
you are a poser

Biden is literally challenging a federal judge rule that he can't prevent people from disagreeing about things on social media.

Not once do I see your ilk fight for things that truly matter.
Liar.

Also, I always get a good chuckle when people don't know what 'censure' actually means.
 
Next time guardrails are gone. Jeffrey Clark or someone similar becomes AG. He appoints some idiot for sec def and God knows what happens in Europe. He neuters all the federal agencies and puts the mainstream media out of business. It’s so damn frightening that we have discussed where we go. Not kidding. We are done if that happens. That’s why this no labels crap is so frightening. Trump can’t get past 40% but if the rest of the vote is split Trump could win. It would be selfish for anyone to do that. Cornell West needs to shut the fuck up. And Manchin and Huntsman just better not go there.
Which is what The Lincoln Project will be screaming from the rooftops next summer.

West is a fucking moron who hates everyone. Including Obama.

He's great for drinking games, though. Do a shot every time he uses the term 'good brother' while motherfucking Democrats in every interview.
 
Liar.

Also, I always get a good chuckle when people don't know what 'censure' actually means.

it's the facts

his defense was ripped to shreds. they claimed they only used this for foreigners, but Americans proved they were lying about it, and the judge pointed it out

and you shit stains just sit by as this shit goes on.

you are a fucking asshole. you would of sided with Hitler, just as oyu dems sided with slavery

not once have you ever been on the side of good vs evil
 
I don’t doubt it.
Pretty scary.
What’s really scary is that he looks like he will get nominated again easily.
I just don’t see him winning unless Biden croaks and Harris becomes the appointed nominee like Hubert Humphrey was.
That was a huge mistake the dems made in ‘68.



He would only win if foreign enemies help him cheat enough again
 
I don’t doubt it.
Pretty scary.
What’s really scary is that he looks like he will get nominated again easily.
I just don’t see him winning unless Biden croaks and Harris becomes the appointed nominee like Hubert Humphrey was.
That was a huge mistake the dems made in ‘68.
trump will lose by 10 million votes this time.

It was bad enough that he began his campaign as a revenge tour.

Now he literally admitted that he will turn POTUS into a dictatorial position if elected.

No way in hell mainstream Republicans are going to vote for him.

People like boring (unless they're under educated) Biden is boring.
 
it's the facts

his defense was ripped to shreds. they claimed they only used this for foreigners, but Americans proved they were lying about it, and the judge pointed it out

and you shit stains just sit by as this shit goes on.

you are a fucking asshole. you would of sided with Hitler, just as oyu dems sided with slavery

not once have you ever been on the side of good vs evil
Stop lying. You might get away with that shit in a Republican circle jerk, but in the real world people will just laugh at you.
 
There is no Repub party. It is Trump's party now. They all follow his orders and back him or face being primaried. He is in complete control. Park your ethics and values at the door. They do not matter.
 
I understand your point. I'm just honestly puzzled as to why you don't see the flashing red lights. We were literally hours away from a President declaring martial law, seizing voting machines, and undoing a free and fair election, and that guy is the presumptive nominee of the Republican party. I just can't understand how anyone can not see that is the single most important issue facing this country. If that goes, not one other thing matters. No labels? Dead. Democracy? Dead. You are going to see journalists thrown in jail, people locked up for their political beliefs. 'I am your retribution'. Now is not the time to mess with the system. Get rid of the cancer and we can go back to having these debates, but this is the wrong time for them. I can leave. Not everyone has that luxury. And if you don't think the Trumpers will come after someone like me, you haven't been paying attention. This is as serious as it has ever been, and we're arguing over which recipe is best for chocolate cake. Let's hold off on that until this threat is over. Honest question, do you think I'm overstating the threat?

Let me ask why Democrats want him to run then? That's pretty much a rhetorical question because they think he will be easy to defeat, which he should be. It happened in Congressional races where Democrats backed #MAGA candidates in Republican primaries, the theory being they would be easier to defeat in the general. And I've paid very little attention to Trump or any of these charges but even with ignorance of what's going on I'm willing to bet 100% there is trumped up politics involved and Democrats know it will drive Republicans back into his camp (good for him winning the primary).

But if he is the level of threat you proclaim why would you (Democrats) want him on the ballot to even risk him winning again?
 
derp derp

Althea needs links to national news stories

derp derp derp derp derp derp
They aren't national news stories. You are citing far Right lies that don't state facts. You cherry pick snippets from decisions and make it sound like sweeping denunciation of intelligence agencies.
 
That's actually the most intelligent thing you've posted in this thread

derp derp troll

derp derp

go read some news so you know what people are talking about

cnn has it. nbc news has it. msnbc. abc. fox. politico. and on and on and on. it is national

stop being so fucking ignorant all the time
 
Let me ask why Democrats want him to run then? That's pretty much a rhetorical question because they think he will be easy to defeat, which he should be. It happened in Congressional races where Democrats back #MAGA candidates in Republican primaries, the theory being they would be easier to defeat in the general. And I've paid very little attention to Trump or any of these charges but even with ignorance of what's going on I'm willing to bet 100% there is trumped up politics involved and Democrats know it will drive Republicans back into his camp (good for him winning the primary).

But if he is the level of threat you proclaim why would you (Democrats) want him on the ballot to even risk him winning again?

It’s not a bad question. It appears to me that republicans voters have no interest in having him not run. So let him run and be destroyed. That ends the threat. He goes to jail and everyone forgets about him. The calculus , and I agree with it, is that the best way to get rid of him now is to let him run. He wins only if a legitimate third party poaches votes from Biden. I am saying this not as a Democrat but as an American.

I don’t want him on the ballot but the cult does. Republican leadership doesn’t want Trump on the ballot either
but they are as powerless to stop it as I am.

These charges are 100% legitimate. The man conspired to steal an election. He stole top secret war plans and showed them off to random people. And seriously why would the Saudis give Kushner 2 BILLION dollars and gave LIV golf to Trumps courses. You think that’s because they are brilliant business people? Nope. Trump is a criminal. And a traitor. That’s not hyperbole.
 
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