Some of the illegals arrested by ICE in Minnesota

[T. A. Gardner]

I've told you this several times:

1. Shooting at a moving vehicle

This in and of itself is not a procedural violation. You can fire on a moving vehicle, or any vehicle, if:

There is gunfire, or other visible threat of force coming from the vehicle. That is, pointing something that looks like a weapon is sufficient.
The vehicle is being used as a weapon itself, as in the occupant(s) are trying to hit persons, destroy property, etc.

When you cannot fire on it is if it is simply moving.

So, if you try to drive towards an ICE officer who is in front of, or partially in front of, your vehicle that officer can use deadly force against the occupant(s) of that vehicle.

2. Body cams off during a law enforcement action.

I don't know what ICE's exact position on body cameras is or if all ICE officers are even issued one. The officer was videoing with his phone and that video has been released. I doubt a body camera would show much difference.

Get it now?

Get it now?

 

[LurchAddams]

This in and of itself is not a procedural violation. You can fire on a moving vehicle, or any vehicle, if:

There is gunfire, or other visible threat of force coming from the vehicle. That is, pointing something that looks like a weapon is sufficient.
The vehicle is being used as a weapon itself, as in the occupant(s) are trying to hit persons, destroy property, etc.

When you cannot fire on it is if it is simply moving.

So, if you try to drive towards an ICE officer who is in front of, or partially in front of, your vehicle that officer can use deadly force against the occupant(s) of that vehicle.


I don't know what ICE's exact position on body cameras is or if all ICE officers are even issued one. The officer was videoing with his phone and that video has been released. I doubt a body camera would show much difference.

Get it now?

No. You right wing hatred has melted your brain. You're a lying troll. You're just a little fancier about it.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Yea, yea... The ACLU is gaslighting you by omission. They don't state why any of these people died while in custody. The vast majority died from medical complications or conditions they had prior to being arrested and not due to being in custody or anything ICE did or didn't do. In fact, many died while in medical care that they likely wouldn't have gotten on the street.

Death because of a medical condition that ICE failed to treat in a timely manner is not exactly the exculpatory evidence you think it is. Particularly when there is lots of evidence of ICE failing to provide medical treatment in so many instance.

Two of those the ACLU includes are Norlan Guzman-Fuentes, 37, of El Salvador and Miguel Ángel García Medina, 31, of Mexico, who were killed by an Antifa terrorist in an attack on the ICE facility where they were being held in Dallas TX. How is that ICE's fault?

2025 was ICE’s deadliest year in two decades. Here are the 32 people who died in custody

The deaths came as the Trump administration ramped up immigration enforcement, detaining a record number of people

www.theguardian.com

The ACLU is full of shit.

You are the one full of shit by using 2 to discount all the other deaths.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Irrelevant appeal to probability.

Also, the FACT is that the ILLEGAL immigrant population commits serious crimes at about triple the rates of the general American population. The ILLEGAL immigrant population rarely starts businesses at all. The ILLEGAL immigrant population is a net drain on the GDP.

Bullshit from you. Did you get these facts from your cult leader?

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find

Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas - PMC

Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime. This stems largely from data constraints. Going beyond existing research, we utilize data ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Bullshit from you. Did you get these facts from your cult leader?

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find

Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas - PMC

Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime. This stems largely from data constraints. Going beyond existing research, we utilize data ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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From your source:

Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime.

They are using the Texas Department of Corrections data, one of the few states that tracks illegals in their justice system as a separate category.

 

[FastLane]

From your source:

Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime.

They are using the Texas Department of Corrections data, one of the few states that tracks illegals in their justice system as a separate category.

TEXAS

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

From your source:

Despite its centrality to public and political discourse, we lack even basic information on fundamental questions regarding undocumented immigrants and crime.

They are using the Texas Department of Corrections data, one of the few states that tracks illegals in their justice system as a separate category.

ROFLMAO. So you admit your claim is bullshit since you lack even basic information.

 

[RB 60]

I am now of the opinion that those of you on the right...DO NOT THINK AT ALL.

So it's OK to block public roadways?

 

[Hume]

So it's OK to block public roadways?

Does it deserver murder?

 

[RB 60]

If you moved your car to block, you can move it to unblock. Unless, of course, you are Renee Good and are dead because of your #MalignantMessiah's stormtroopers.

What about all those idiots standing in the roads and making roadblocks?
Hopefully, no one you know would need medical assistance and the medics can't get through.

 

[RB 60]

Does it deserver murder?

Does breaking into the capitol deserve murder?

 

[Hume]

Does breaking into the capitol deserve murder?

Yes, they were physically assaulting cops.

 

[RB 60]

Yes, they were physically assaulting cops.

Then why weren't more shot?

 

[Hume]

Then why weren't more shot?

Exactly. Many cops said they feared they themselves would be killed by Trump's mob.

 

[RB 60]

Exactly. Many cops said they feared they themselves would be killed by Trump's mob.

That's a lie, pure and simple. They had the guns...

 

[Hume]

That's a lie, pure and simple. They had the guns...

No, actual testimony. Sorry, fact.

 

[RB 60]

No, actual testimony. Sorry, fact.

Once again, I'm calling you a liar, because you are a liar.

 

[Hume]

Once again, I'm calling you a liar, because you are a liar.

like i care

 

[RB 60]

like i care

You made a comment and can't back it up. So yes, you're a liar, and a stupid one at that.

 

[Hume]

You made a comment and can't back it up. So yes, you're a liar, and a stupid one at that.

zzzzzzz