Gun Monkey Follies

SmarterthanYou said:
you do understand the concept of criminals NOT following the law???????
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Yes, I do. That's why I understand that making it too difficult or too expensive (black market) for criminals to obtain high quality weapons is imperative to lowering gun crime rate. Gun monkeys just refuse to accept reality .... like how the AR-15 style rifles became the weapon of choice for numerous mass shooters ever since the GOP let the 1994 AWB law sunset in 2004.

That is why the OP and it's questions stand.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
More than that Comrade. You have to conduct the transfer through a Federally Licensed Firearms dealer.

Do you even grasp the 90% of what you have posted in this thread are outright lies?
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Seriously, are you really this fucking stupid or do you practice at it.

1. Outside of your worthless opinion, you have yet to prove logically and factually what I am lying about.
2. Nothing Damo said essentially prevents a law abiding citizen from owning or obtaining that gun. Hell, what they do in MA with guns is the same one has to do when selling a car. Only gun monkeys pitch a bitch about that.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
ROFL

And people wonder why the DNC Propaganda Corps has a whopping 8% trust from the public....

Useless Rag Today attempting to lie away the fact that democrats started the Civil War and founded the KKK. Too funny, but just shows what sleazy liars leftists truly are, particularly the Little Goebbels of the party press.

Yes, democrats did indeed start the first civil war when they fired on federal troops at Ft. Sumpter. Yes, democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan as a terrorist group to murder and assault Republicans initially, expanding to freed slaves later. The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democrat party until Richard Nixon broke their back in 1969 by making them civilly liable and the democrat terrorists collapsed.

In 2009 - Barack Obama revived the KKK, renaming it BLM and designating Republicans and white people as the scapegoat to be assaulted and attacked. Same old Klan, just changing the skin tone of the victims.

democrats, democrats never change.
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Zzzzzz .. **!! Oh, I'm sorry. I must have dozed off waiting for you to provide some valid documentation from reputable sources to disprove ANYTHING in the link I provided.

Let me know when you do. (Hint: your personal opinions, supposition and conjecture are not substitutes for that.)
 
Uncensored2008 said:
1. So you try to lie your way out because Adam the lying little Schitt is only trying to confiscate MOST guns, not all.
2. "Mandatory Buyback" programs are confiscation.

You gun grabber monkeys are not clever. Not only is "buyback" a euphemism for confiscation, it tips your hand as to who your target is. Obviously criminals won't comply with buyback confiscation schemes. But then you never wanted to disarm criminals. It's the law abiding who would comply with the unconstitutional laws you pass who you want defenseless, because it's those law abiding who are likely to stand against you in the imposition of your attack on our Constitutional Republic.
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Fascinating how you keep inserting your bizarre versions of reality and re-inventing definitions of word and law ... and thinking you make sense.

For the truly inquisitive reader wanting the truth www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/donald-trump/kamala-harris-once-backed-mandatory-assault-weapon/

Seems the Uncensored :orang:from 2008 just can't stop either displaying his ignorance or intellectual dishonesty.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Zzzzzz .. **!! Oh, I'm sorry. I must have dozed off waiting for you to provide some valid documentation from reputable sources to disprove ANYTHING in the link I provided.

Let me know when you do. (Hint: your personal opinions, supposition and conjecture are not substitutes for that.)
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P.S. Repeating that the Democrats were the party of slavery over 150 years is a given, as was how it gave an wink and a nod to the KKK. What dimbulbs like you REFUSE to acknowledge is the political shift after the Confederacy fell and Jim Crow coughed up blood in 1968 .... aka the Southern Strategy. You also deny the current (last 40 years) FACT that white nationalist/supremacist, neo-nazi and KKK groups have ALL endorsed GOP candidates, hosted some at their conferences, and have gotten an okey-doke from some GOP politicians.

Seems you're just in denial since 2008, you bigoted little :orang:
 
Taichiliberal said:
:palm::rolleyes: Okay, let's take this from the top:

1. Person A is NOT a criminal .... no DUI or DWI arrests, no illegal drug use/selling/possession arrests, no public or domestic disturbances, pays their bills on time, pays taxes. Not so much as even a parking ticket.

2. Person B is a criminal with a rap sheet .... did time, finished their parole.

3. Person B cannot by law own a gun .... BUT their friend, Person A can. They both live in a state where the gun laws are considered very lax as compared to other states. In state #2, it is a high standard for a citizen with no criminal record to obtain a gun license.

4. Person A buys one or more guns, legal by state law. Since there is no requirement for a private sale of said gun(s), Person A can sell to Person B to be registered, so the gun can change multiple hands before getting to Person B.

5. Person B travels to relocates to another state, smuggling the guns (which can be smuggled also by Person A for the transaction). In state #2, he (and possibly an accomplice) commit crimes with guns they could not get in that state even if they didn't have criminal records.

6. Look up the phrase "iron pipeline" and how it relates to various states and gun crimes.

Got that?
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Taichiliberal said:
Seriously, are you really this fucking stupid or do you practice at it.
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Seriously, are you going to try and lie your way out of this?

Taichiliberal said:
1. Outside of your worthless opinion, you have yet to prove logically and factually what I am lying about.
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Such as the proven fact that private sales must go through an FFL in Massachusetts?

Why yes. You see, I post verified and verifiable fact, rather than fabrications lifted from Anti-Liberty hate sites.

Only 21 states allow actual private sales. The other 29 are like California and Massachusetts.

Taichiliberal said:
2. Nothing Damo said essentially prevents a law abiding citizen from owning or obtaining that gun.
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What Damo and I have both proven is that you lied about the "gun show loophole" or "private gun sales". No such thing exists and 29 states require private sales to go through an FFL.

Taichiliberal said:
Hell, what they do in MA with guns is the same one has to do when selling a car. Only gun monkeys pitch a bitch about that.
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Hell, this also proves your lack of integrity. Instead of admitting that you lied and your claim is utterly invalid, you double down on lying.

Gun Grabber Monkey that you are.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Zzzzzz .. **!! Oh, I'm sorry. I must have dozed off waiting for you to provide some valid documentation from reputable sources to disprove ANYTHING in the link I provided.

Let me know when you do. (Hint: your personal opinions, supposition and conjecture are not substitutes for that.)
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Yes, your laughable lies were debunked.

And the boldness of the blatant lies from the DNC press - who obviously know that their intended audience are uneducated dolts who will uncritically accept any outrageous lie they vomit out - as you did.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Seriously, are you this fucking dumb or do you practice at being ignorant.

For your education:

www.usafacts.org/articles/heres-where-guns-used-in-crimes-are-bought/
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So, were you trying to lie, but too dumb pull it off? Or did you not bother to read what you linked to?

Let's ignore your dishonest attempt to move the goalposts, the question regarded mass shootings by guns bought using the fictitious "gun show loophole."

But let's ignore that you are an honorless schmuck and go with what you regurgitate.

In the opening paragraph the article YOU linked says;

{It also reveals that 99% of traced crime guns were initially obtained from a dealer, pawnbroker, or gun manufacturer.}

This is what is known as a "self-own."

So much for your gun grabber monkey lie about "gun show loophole."

So you have confirmed that neither you nor any anti-civil rights monkey can come up with even a single mass shooting with a weapon obtained through this fictitious "gun show loophole."
 
Taichiliberal said:
P.S. Repeating that the Democrats were the party of slavery over 150 years is a given, as was how it gave an wink and a nod to the KKK. What dimbulbs like you REFUSE to acknowledge is the political shift after the Confederacy fell and Jim Crow coughed up blood in 1968 .... aka the Southern Strategy. You also deny the current (last 40 years) FACT that white nationalist/supremacist, neo-nazi and KKK groups have ALL endorsed GOP candidates, hosted some at their conferences, and have gotten an okey-doke from some GOP politicians.

Seems you're just in denial since 2008, you bigoted little :orang:
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ROFL

Like a two year old, you can count on leftists to blame others for what they did.

The South was run by a small group of Oligarchs - George Soros, Tim Cook types of their day. Like the democrat Oligarchs of today, the government served the will of the Oligarchs then. Now you. like all democrats, are poorly educated and have zero knowledge of history. You spew the Nazi democrat fable that "all whites are oppressors and had slaves." It's bullshit of course, less than 5% of white people owned slaves in the Antebellum South. Slaves were concentrated on large plantations owned by the Oligarchs. Did I mention that the plantations (no word if they were named "Facebook" or "Apple") owned the governments of the states they were in? Just like the democrats today...

Now one of the lies you Communists LOVE to tell is that the Oligarchs were advocates of "states rights." But then there is the whole "fugitive slave act" thing. Compelling free states to act as agents of slave states against their will is hardly promoting sovereign states. But as I said - you democrats are fucking liars - you were then - you are now. democrats never change.

Another lie democrats like to tell is that the Antebellum democrats "supported property rights." Another lie of course. Consider the "small holder act" in Georgia, that allowed plantations to seize by force any farm under 100 acres. Property theft by democrat oligarchs is the opposite "property rights."

So what have we learned? Well you haven't learned anything - you're not capable of learning.

But lurkers have learned that democrats in the old south were big government thugs who imposed their will on other states and who had contempt for private property and property rights - just like democrats today.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
ROFL

Like a two year old, you can count on leftists to blame others for what they did.

The South was run by a small group of Oligarchs - George Soros, Tim Cook types of their day. Like the democrat Oligarchs of today, the government served the will of the Oligarchs then. Now you. like all democrats, are poorly educated and have zero knowledge of history. You spew the Nazi democrat fable that "all whites are oppressors and had slaves." It's bullshit of course, less than 5% of white people owned slaves in the Antebellum South. Slaves were concentrated on large plantations owned by the Oligarchs. Did I mention that the plantations (no word if they were named "Facebook" or "Apple") owned the governments of the states they were in? Just like the democrats today...

Now one of the lies you Communists LOVE to tell is that the Oligarchs were advocates of "states rights." But then there is the whole "fugitive slave act" thing. Compelling free states to act as agents of slave states against their will is hardly promoting sovereign states. But as I said - you democrats are fucking liars - you were then - you are now. democrats never change.

Another lie democrats like to tell is that the Antebellum democrats "supported property rights." Another lie of course. Consider the "small holder act" in Georgia, that allowed plantations to seize by force any farm under 100 acres. Property theft by democrat oligarchs is the opposite "property rights."

So what have we learned? Well you haven't learned anything - you're not capable of learning.

But lurkers have learned that democrats in the old south were big government thugs who imposed their will on other states and who had contempt for private property and property rights - just like democrats today.
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🙄All that rambling clap trap of yours, and you STILL can't logically or factually refute or disprove what I previously stated. You're STILL in denial of the ideological shift (aka the Southern Strategy) and you STILL refuse to acknowledge the public support of the current GOP by KKK, neo-nazis, white nationalist/supremacist. You"re just another maga mook in denial. A see no, speak no, hear no maga mook.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
So, were you trying to lie, but too dumb pull it off? Or did you not bother to read what you linked to?

Let's ignore your dishonest attempt to move the goalposts, the question regarded mass shootings by guns bought using the fictitious "gun show loophole."

But let's ignore that you are an honorless schmuck and go with what you regurgitate.

In the opening paragraph the article YOU linked says;

{It also reveals that 99% of traced crime guns were initially obtained from a dealer, pawnbroker, or gun manufacturer.}

This is what is known as a "self-own."

So much for your gun grabber monkey lie about "gun show loophole."

So you have confirmed that neither you nor any anti-civil rights monkey can come up with even a single mass shooting with a weapon obtained through this fictitious "gun show loophole."
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:oops::palm: You quoted a title, excerpt a sentence and attach your usual BS.

Had you any comprehensive reading skills, you would have read this in the first paragraph:
ATF reveals that traced crime gun - guns used later in crimes - that originated from gin shows increased by 19% from 2017 to 2021.

The title of the second paragraph is CRIME GUNS BOUGHT AT SHOWS ARE ON THE RISE.

Think, gun monkey, THINK! The guns are initially bought legitimate, then taken to a gun show and sold to any yahoo with cash without background checks. That's one way how they wind up in criminal hands.

You got that, you simple :orang:?
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Yes, your laughable lies were debunked.

And the boldness of the blatant lies from the DNC press - who obviously know that their intended audience are uneducated dolts who will uncritically accept any outrageous lie they vomit out - as you did.
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So you've got nothing but more BS. Figures. You're pretty much a cooked :orang:
 
Taichiliberal said:
Yes, I do. That's why I understand that making it too difficult or too expensive (black market) for criminals to obtain high quality weapons is imperative to lowering gun crime rate. Gun monkeys just refuse to accept reality .... like how the AR-15 style rifles became the weapon of choice for numerous mass shooters ever since the GOP let the 1994 AWB law sunset in 2004.

That is why the OP and it's questions stand.
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The AWB defined ‘assault weapons’ based on specific features. It didn’t ban all AR-15 rifles, but rather banned specific models listed by name, along with any semi-automatic rifle that could accept a detachable magazine and had two or more of the following characteristics:
https://thegunzone.com/were-ar-15-rifles-ever-banned/
The law also banned large capacity magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
The ban included several loopholes that allowed manufacturers to circumvent the restrictions. For example, manufacturers could remove the banned features (like the flash suppressor) or make minor cosmetic changes to legally sell AR-15 style rifles. The law also grandfathered in legally owned weapons and magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Seriously, are you going to try and lie your way out of this?



Such as the proven fact that private sales must go through an FFL in Massachusetts?

Why yes. You see, I post verified and verifiable fact, rather than fabrications lifted from Anti-Liberty hate sites.

Only 21 states allow actual private sales. The other 29 are like California and Massachusetts.



What Damo and I have both proven is that you lied about the "gun show loophole" or "private gun sales". No such thing exists and 29 states require private sales to go through an FFL.



Hell, this also proves your lack of integrity. Instead of admitting that you lied and your claim is utterly invalid, you double down on lying.

Gun Grabber Monkey that you are.
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As the chronology of the posts shows. I accepted and applauded Damo's information. HOWEVER Post # shows that MA is not the standard.

You claim all 21 states are like MA and CA, but you show no valid documentstion to support that. Typical half passed gun monkey propaganda.

So it seems all your noise about lying and integrity is just more projection from a :orang:
 
Lionfish said:

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The AWB defined ‘assault weapons’ based on specific features. It didn’t ban all AR-15 rifles, but rather banned specific models listed by name, along with any semi-automatic rifle that could accept a detachable magazine and had two or more of the following characteristics:
https://thegunzone.com/were-ar-15-rifles-ever-banned/
The law also banned large capacity magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
The ban included several loopholes that allowed manufacturers to circumvent the restrictions. For example, manufacturers could remove the banned features (like the flash suppressor) or make minor cosmetic changes to legally sell AR-15 style rifles. The law also grandfathered in legally owned weapons and magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect.
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🙄 For you education:

Yes, the Colt AR-15 was explicitly named on the list of banned semi-automatic firearms in the Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) of 1994. [1, 2]
The 1994 legislation restricted the sale and manufacture of certain firearms in three specific ways:

• By Specific Name: The law banned 19 specific firearm models and their copies or duplicates, including the Colt AR-15, AK-47, and Uzi.
• By Generic Features: It applied a "two-feature test," banning rifles that could accept a detachable magazine and had at least two military-style features (e.g., a folding stock, pistol grip, or bayonet mount).
• By Magazine Capacity: It also prohibited the manufacture of large-capacity magazines (holding more than 10 rounds). [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The federal law expired in September 2004, though several states continue to have their own bans on AR-15 style rifles and large-capacity magazines. To understand the specifics of what was outlawed, you can read the historical discussions on What was banned in the 1994 “assault” weapons ban? - Reddit or review A Brief History Of The AR-15 - NPR for background on its civilian design. [2]

AI responses may include mistakes.

[1] https://www.ammoman.com/blog/a-history-of-the-federal-assault-weapons-ban/
[2] https://oag.ca.gov/ogvp/fed-assault-weapons-ban
[3] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...anned-assault-weapons-in-94-why-cant-they-now
[4] https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/assault-weapons-large-magazines/
[5] https://massgunownership.com/awb.html
 
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