Archaeology of the New Testament

[ZenMode]

What makes you think the Universe was created or 'designed'?

What makes you think the Universe was created or 'designed'?

The Universe is a random dust cloud. It is not organized. It is not 'designed'. It has no known boundaries.

I don't believe the universe or man was designed. Cypress, as you already know because you've interacted with him on the topic, is the one who believes it was intelligently designed.

 

[Into the Night]

WE may not understand DNA,

You are only one person. Are you having another schizophrenic episode?

Some people understand small snippets of DNA and what that code does. Some people also understand how DNA is copied for cell division, or how DNA is used to produce RNA for cell functions such as producing various useful molecules.

Both of these functions are powered by the assymetrical nature of the 'engine' molecule.

No one knows how the cell selects the snippet it wants to copy or translate.

but a being who designed a solution involving DNA would certainly, as the creator, understand it inside and out.

Such a being would obviously understand DNA, the 'engines' used to copy and translate it, and the meaning of each code snippet, and how the cell decides which snippet to use.

Also, the Intelligent Designer didn't HAVE to use DNA, right?

Why not? DNA works.

I suppose you don't HAVE to use a light bulb to light a room, but light bulbs work and quite well. They are much safer than candles or torches.

The ID has unlimited options at his disposal for how to design the human being. The ID didn't have to give bipeds a spine and knees designed for quadruped. The ID didn't have to make our primary light source cancer-causing. The ID didn't have to use DNA or use DNA that is susceptible to mutation, right?

I don't think you know what cancer even IS.

Are you trying to make a point here?

 

[Into the Night]

I don't believe the universe or man was designed.

The Universe has no 'design'. It is just a random dust cloud.
Man has a design. Everything about the body's function is highly organized, even down to the cellular level.

Cypress, as you already know because you've interacted with him on the topic, is the one who believes it was intelligently designed.

I take it you believe in the Theory of Abiogenesis, a nonscientific theory, and yet another religion.

There is a paradox in this theory:

If one cell somehow comes together through a series of random unspecified events, what is it going to eat? It will die.

 

[ZenMode]

Are you trying to make a point here?

I'm not cutting your meat for you.

 

[Cypress]

WE may not understand DNA, but a being who designed a solution involving DNA would certainly, as the creator, understand it inside and out.

Also, the Intelligent Designer didn't HAVE to use DNA, right? The ID has unlimited options at his disposal for how to design the human being. The ID didn't have to give bipeds a spine and knees designed for quadrupeds. The ID didn't have to make our primary light source cancer-causing. The ID didn't have to use DNA or use DNA that is susceptible to mutation, right?

You haven't provided an explanation for how coded information-bearing biological molecules could randomly form.

If you really believe nothing is real but inanimate matter and energy, you need to convince me you are absolutely 100 percent sure that inanimate matter and random chance can produce coded information-bearing DNA and conciousness.

You made it sound like biological life was shoddy and unsound.

Anyone who had had a molecular biology or neuroscience class can't help but marvel at the unfathomable elegance and complexity of the cell and the neuron.

 

[ZenMode]

You haven't provided an explanation for how coded information-bearing biological molecules could randomly form.

As I said before, is much more intellectually honest to say I don't know then come up with fairy tail beings to explain things.

If you really believe nothing is real but inanimate matter and energy, you need to convince me you are absolutely 100 percent sure that inanimate matter and random chance can produce coded information-bearing DNA and conciousness.

You made it sound like biological life was shoddy and unsound.

Anyone who had had a molecular biology or neuroscience class can't help but marvel at the unfathomable elegance and complexity of the cell and the neuron.

I pointed out a laundry list of examples that show there is no intelligent designer. Thoughts?

We are clearly back to the god of the gaps stuff that we discussed a while ago. We can't explain it? It must be a deity.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm not cutting your meat for you.

So you have no point to make...again. Gotit.

 

[Into the Night]

As I said before, is much more intellectually honest to say I don't know then come up with fairy tail beings to explain things.

The Bible has no fairies.

I pointed out a laundry list of examples that show there is no intelligent designer. Thoughts?

Your religion. Meh.

We are clearly back to the god of the gaps stuff that we discussed a while ago. We can't explain it? It must be a deity.

God of Gaps is a buzzword. Meaningless.

 

[ZenMode]

So you have no point to make...again. Gotit.

If you can't figure out what Cyprus and I disagree on, that's on you. I'm not cutting your meat.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

That's not a genealogy. That's narrative verse.

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"The New Testament includes two genealogies of Jesus of Nazareth, one in Matthew 1:1-17, and another in Luke 3:23-38."

The Genealogies of Jesus - Shepherds Theological Seminary

The New Testament includes two genealogies of Jesus of Nazareth, one in Matthew 1:1-17, and another in Luke 3:23-38. Although the modern reader may find these lists of names less than scintillating, they are in fact supremely important to the argument of the New Testament concerning the person...

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Nice try ,it's the name of Jesus's brothers,that you said wasn't in Scripture!

 

[Ichabod Stain]

The year zero and December 25 are arbitrary traditions passed down to us by the Church.

People with rational minds who think like historians and scientists tend to conclude the manuscript evidence points to Jesus being born a few years before the year Zero.

you think like a demon.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

Argument of the Stone fallacy. You are denying the Bible and the gospel of Jesus Christ again.

what does "sum of the law and the prophets" mean to you, ape-face?

 

[Ichabod Stain]

I don't believe the universe or man was designed. Cypress, as you already know because you've interacted with him on the topic, is the one who believes it was intelligently designed.

cypress doesn't believe in evolution.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

these fools are luciferian masonic devil cretins with no discernment.

No Spiritually Blind! Or on the outside looking in,when they could easily be ,on the inside looking out!

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

I try to always follow the evidence towards the best explanation.

There is zero evidence Jesus was born in the year zero on December 25.

There is substantial manuscript evidence suggesting Jesus was born around 4 to 6 BC.

It doesn't take a theology degree to know Dec 25 , isn't Biblical.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

cypress doesn't believe in evolution.

I think Cypress believes that some people believe in evolution!
Cypress apparently doesn't believe in anything,because he always quotes someone ,that might or might not be right!

 

[ZenMode]

cypress doesn't believe in evolution.

Not surprising

 

[Ichabod Stain]

I think Cypress believes that some people believe in evolution!
Cypress apparently doesn't believe in anything,because he always quotes someone ,that might or might not be right!

he's weak sauce.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

No Spiritually Blind! Or on the outside looking in,when they could easily be ,on the inside looking out!

they're trying to hide how easy it is to be loved by Jesus.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

he's weak sauce.

Just scared to commit! But playing it safe like that,is dangerous! Nobody has your back.