Seattle Also Elects A Socialist Mayor

[Uncensored2008]

Quite noticeable you never a served the question, so we’ll repeat it for you, “you don’t approve of democracy and you don’t approve of dictatorship, so tell us, what is the alternative?”

Our Constitutional Republic with elective representation is a far better choice for the greatest number of people.

Those like you who promote authoritarian and totalitarian systems always assume they will be in the rulership caste. It's the reason Socialism appeals to the Bill Gates, Barack Obama, George Soros types - they actually are the ruling caste. But you promote placing yourself into slavery. You just aren't bright enough to grasp what you demand.

 

[Uncensored2008]

President Jackson founded the Democrat party.

On the federal level. Aaron Burr is the actual founder.

He liked to steal land.
He liked to rape and abuse his own slaves.

Yep. democrats have been scumbags from the start. Burr was an actual traitor.

Karl Marx is also an important influence. It was Karl Marx that Stalin followed.
Karl Marx advocated fascism and communism...the theft of wealth.

True. FDR was enamored by Stalin and reshaped the democrat party to match the ideals and ideas of Stalin. It was easy to do, because democrats were already scumbags.

 

[Nordberg]

America has had different wealth distributions in the past. The Gilded Age was an extreme imbalance of wealth that was not surpassed until now. The wealth is produced by the workers. They should earn a good salary and have protections. They are not simply dispoisable people as the wealthy think. When the Min wage was started, it was supposed to be a living wage. It has fallen way behind and the difference went into ownership pockets.
Calling for fair and honest wages is labeled Socialism. Absconding with all the money for the few is not called Plutocracy or Oligarchy. They control the press.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Apparently posting foolish tripe doesn't embarrass you. You're the classic case of no brain, no pain.

No one imagined that you had the intelligence or education to understand what I wrote.

You really are a very stupid little guy, Jake.

 

[Uncensored2008]

America has had different wealth distributions in the past. The Gilded Age was an extreme imbalance of wealth that was not surpassed until now. The wealth is produced by the workers. They should earn a good salary and have protections. They are not simply dispoisable people as the wealthy think. When the Min wage was started, it was supposed to be a living wage. It has fallen way behind and the difference went into ownership pockets.
Calling for fair and honest wages is labeled Socialism. Absconding with all the money for the few is not called Plutocracy or Oligarchy. They control the press.

Comrade, how is "wealth produced by the workers?"

Explain the mechanism? If the base laborer produces wealth, why do they seek employment? Why do the not simply labor at their home or in a vacant lot and create the wealth you attribute to them?

Run away now, you won't answer - you can't answer. Marxists never can.

 

[Noking]

No one imagined that you had the intelligence or education to understand what I wrote.

You really are a very stupid little guy, Jake.

Your brain just fell out from shaking so much while you were typing.

 

[cawacko]

America has had different wealth distributions in the past. The Gilded Age was an extreme imbalance of wealth that was not surpassed until now. The wealth is produced by the workers. They should earn a good salary and have protections. They are not simply dispoisable people as the wealthy think. When the Min wage was started, it was supposed to be a living wage. It has fallen way behind and the difference went into ownership pockets.
Calling for fair and honest wages is labeled Socialism. Absconding with all the money for the few is not called Plutocracy or Oligarchy. They control the press.

Out of curiosity, what do you believe differentiates a democratic socialist from a more mainstream Democrat?

 

[Into the Night]

On the federal level. Aaron Burr is the actual founder.

Good point.

 

[Into the Night]

America has had different wealth distributions in the past.

Who are YOU to redistribute wealth? And on what basis? YOURS?

The Gilded Age was an extreme imbalance of wealth that was not surpassed until now.

Capitalism is not about 'balancing wealth'. It is about creating wealth.

The wealth is produced by the workers.

WRONG. Wealth is created by capitalism.

They should earn a good salary and have protections.

WRONG. The salary they earn is due to market forces.

They are not simply dispoisable people as the wealthy think.

They are quite disposable. Their salary is set by market forces.
Price controls (including wage controls) always cause shortages. That is fascism.

When the Min wage was started, it was supposed to be a living wage.

Price controls always cause shortages. That is fascism.

It has fallen way behind and the difference went into ownership pockets.

Irrelevant. Price controls always cause shortages. It is fascism.

Calling for fair and honest wages is labeled Socialism.

Minimum wage laws is fascism, a form of socialism. Price controls always cause shortages.

Absconding with all the money for the few is not called Plutocracy or Oligarchy. They control the press.

WRONG.

An oligarchy is a dictatorship by committee. It is what Democrats WANT.
The Democrats WANT to control the press. They WANT censorship.

Wage is set by market forces, Sybil. Price controls never work. They always cause shortages. It is fascism.

 

[Into the Night]

Comrade, how is "wealth produced by the workers?"

Explain the mechanism? If the base laborer produces wealth, why do they seek employment? Why do the not simply labor at their home or in a vacant lot and create the wealth you attribute to them?

Run away now, you won't answer - you can't answer. Marxists never can.

The simply reason is that they don't understand price discovery or capitalism. They simply hate it just as they hate the rich. It is avarice plain and simple.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Your brain just fell out from shaking so much while you were typing.

Just to underscore my point.

 

[archives]

Inversion fallacy.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

Pure capitalism always works.

It was capitalism that literally built whole cities out of the wilderness.
It was capitalism that created the personal computer market, the web, AI, robotics, and all the benefits they provide.
It was capitalism that made the personal vehicle a practical reality.

Capitalism requires no government. No 'regulator'. No 'moderator'. It is self correcting.
It is the only system that creates wealth.
It is not a respecter. Anyone can play the game of capitalism, rich or poor, educated or not. It only requires the will to do so.
It is the best avenue for the poor to lift themselves out of poverty.

It is the voluntary creation of products and services for voluntary sale at the agreed upon price.

Fallacy fallacy

You can't blame your fallacies on me or anybody else, anchovies.

WRONG.

A republic is government by law (a constitution). That constitution specifies representatives (officers) in that government, what their powers are, the term of their service, the method by which they are elected, and also specifies how the owners of that constitution (the people for State constitutions and the States for the U.S. Constitution) may amend that constitution.

A government by constitution has NO powers outside of that specifically granted by it's constitution.


China is not a republic. It has no constitution. It is currently an oligarchy (dictatorship by committee).
Cuba is not a republic. It has no constitution. It is currently a dictatorship.

There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic'. A democracy is not a republic.


The United States is a federated republic. It is not and never was a democracy.

No. All officers and representatives in the United States are elected according to the procedures laid out in that Constitution. Their power and authority is only that granted by that same Constitution. Their term of service is specified by that same Constitution.

See Article I and the 14th amendment for the method of electing a Representative to Congress.
See Article I, the 14th amendment, and the 17th amendment for the method of electing a Senator.
See Article II and the 12th amendment for the method of electing a President.
Also see the 13th amendment, the 15th amendments, 19th amendment, the 20th amendment, the 22nd amendment, the 23rd amendment, the 24th amendment, and the 25th amendment.


A democracy has no constitution and no representatives. A democracy is government by popular vote, and is an unstable form

You can't blame your fallacies on me or anybody else, anchovies.

WRONG.

A republic is government by law (a constitution). That constitution specifies representatives (officers) in that government, what their powers are, the term of their service, the method by which they are elected, and also specifies how the owners of that constitution (the people for State constitutions and the States for the U.S. Constitution) may amend that constitution.

A government by constitution has NO powers outside of that specifically granted by it's constitution.


China is not a republic. It has no constitution. It is currently an oligarchy (dictatorship by committee).
Cuba is not a republic. It has no constitution. It is currently a dictatorship.

There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic'. A democracy is not a republic.


The United States is a federated republic. It is not and never was a democracy.

No. All officers and representatives in the United States are elected according to the procedures laid out in that Constitution. Their power and authority is only that granted by that same Constitution. Their term of service is specified by that same Constitution.

See Article I and the 14th amendment for the method of electing a Representative to Congress.
See Article I, the 14th amendment, and the 17th amendment for the method of electing a Senator.
See Article II and the 12th amendment for the method of electing a President.
Also see the 13th amendment, the 15th amendments, 19th amendment, the 20th amendment, the 22nd amendment, the 23rd amendment, the 24th amendment, and the 25th amendment.


A democracy has no constitution and no representatives. A democracy is government by popular vote, and is an unstable form of government.

Wrong, a republic means is that a political state has representative power centered in a legislative body, It can be a Constitutional democracy, a socialist state, authoritarian, Communist, it doesn't matter, China is a Republic and it has a constitution and legislative body

We are a Democratic Republic, the citizenry democratically elects their representatives, saying we are just a Republic is asinine

 

[Nordberg]

Out of curiosity, what do you believe differentiates a democratic socialist from a more mainstream Democrat?

They want the people to have a support system. They want a much higher minimum wage with worker protections. They want a universal medical system. They want a far cheaper educational system.
Most Dems have given up the battle for those things and fight about small differences that are somewhat achievable.

 

[Into the Night]

Fallacy fallacy

YARP. Denial of logic. Mimicry. Grow up.

Wrong, a republic means is that a political state has representative power centered in a legislative body, It can be a Constitutional democracy, a socialist state, authoritarian, Communist, it doesn't matter, China is a Republic and it has a constitution and legislative body

WRONG. A republic is government by law (a constitution). It means nothing else.
There is no such thing as a 'constitutional democracy'. A democracy has no constitution.

Socialism is not a form of government.
Communism is not a form of government.

China is currently an oligarchy. It has no constitution.

We are a Democratic Republic, the citizenry democratically elects their representatives, saying we are just a Republic is asinine

There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic'.
A democracy has no representatives.
A democracy has no constitution.

The United States is a federated republic. It has never been anything else.

 

[Into the Night]

They want the people to have a support system.

AKA Communism.

They want a much higher minimum wage

AKA Fascism.

with worker protections.

They already are.

They want a universal medical system.

AKA Communism.

They want a far cheaper educational system.

AKA Communism.

Most Dems have given up the battle for those things and fight about small differences that are somewhat achievable.

Is that why Democrats are rioting in the streets?
Is that why Democrats are looting?
Is that why Democrats support organized crime?
Is that why Democrats support harboring illegal aliens?
Is that why Democrats commit election fraud?
Is that why Democrats support fraud?
Is that why Democrats support brutal dictatorships and terrorists?
Is that why Democrats keep assassinating people and trying to assassinate people?

Fuck you.

 

[archives]

YARP. Denial of logic. Mimicry. Grow up.

WRONG. A republic is government by law (a constitution). It means nothing else.
There is no such thing as a 'constitutional democracy'. A democracy has no constitution.

Socialism is not a form of government.
Communism is not a form of government.

China is currently an oligarchy. It has no constitution.


There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic'.
A democracy has no representatives.
A democracy has no constitution.

The United States is a federated republic. It has never been anything else.

A fallacy fallacy fallacy, and the “grow up” coming form one who can’t exchange content beyond personal bullshit is priceless

China has a Constitution, a Legislature, it is a Constitutional Republic, you have no clue what you are babbling about, and it is doubtful you even comprehend the concepts you are talking about

 

[Hawkeye10]

They want the people to have a support system. They want a much higher minimum wage with worker protections. They want a universal medical system. They want a far cheaper educational system.
Most Dems have given up the battle for those things and fight about small differences that are somewhat achievable.

Most left liberals became illiberal....they have betrayed all of their former core beliefs.

 

[Into the Night]

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China has a Constitution, a Legislature, it is a Constitutional Republic, you have no clue what you are babbling about, and it is doubtful you even comprehend the concepts you are talking about

China does not have a constitution.
China is not a republic.

The current form of government in China is oligarchy.

 

[archives]

China does not have a constitution.
China is not a republic.

The current form of government in China is oligarchy.

Wrong, and when you return with the same it will still be wrong, China is a Constitutional Republic, just like you said was your choice for a government

You’ve been wrong on just about everything on this thread

 

[Hawkeye10]

China does not have a constitution.
China is not a republic.

The current form of government in China is oligarchy.

Constitution of the People's Republic of China

english.www.gov.cn