Entering your home without a warrant.

[Walt]

It's actually the Justice Dept that has to pay.

It is actually no one who has to pay. trump decided to pay.

Not a slush fund, Wally. A court ordered fund.

No court would have ordered this slush fund. It was an out-of-court settlement, so no court order.

Biden violated most of Title 8, and Articles I and II of the Constitution of the United States. It was through an act of treason.
He has also violated the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 14th, and 16th amendments.
Biden also called for civil war against citizens of the United States, another act of treason.
Biden also gave weapons and supplies to the enemy in time of war, another act of treason.
Biden also is guilty of espionage by exposing secret documents to agents of a China and Ukraine, another act of treason.

And yet you can find no evidence of any of it?

 

[Into the Night]

completely incorrect. research renters laws

I am a landlord already, dude. I have already dealt with this.

Theft, fraud, criminal acts (such as drug dealing out of their unit, arson, criminal flight, etc) authorize the landlord AND the police to enter the unit WITHOUT WARRANT. This include ICE agents.

 

[Yakuda]

Why don’t you know?

Because I dont give a shit ahole

 

[Yakuda]

In this case, it was beyond trespassing, it was breaking and entering by ICE.

Oops

 

[Into the Night]

read the 4th Amendment, 5 times if you need to, to understand RESTRICTIONS upon the government

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Arrest of a criminal is allowed. This amendment does not prevent that. If a fleeing criminal enters his apartment, police may enter without a warrant.
If you try to cross the border into the United States with contraband in your car and they find it, they can search the rest of the car, and even dismantle it. It is the same with aircraft and boats.

See the word 'unreasonable'?

You chose to cross the border and be inspected.
You chose to flee into your apartment as a fleeing criminal.

There is no magick safe base like a child's game of tag. The 4th amendment will not protect you in these cases.

 

[Yakuda]

That is not the way the Constitution works.


Just because you are the mythical Florida Man does not mean the Constitution does not apply to you.


By signing a lease, the landlord has sold the right to occupy and control the space. That makes the renter the person who has the right to allow access to the apartment. If the owner does not like that, they are allowed to not rent their property.


The Constitution does not allow landlords to seize back control of a space, and then allow law enforcement to have a warrantless search of it.

Now bail bondsman/bounty hunters/etc. are a bit different. When being bailed out, you sign over rights to search your home. That is the same whether it is an apartment, or you own the home. Bail bondsmen are often criminals who are paying off their bail by searching for bail jumpers. They will overstep their limited rights to search one home by searching any home they come into contact with.


That is illegal. Anything found through such an illegal search would be considered fruit of a poisonous tree.

Incorrect. The lease does not control the space. The landlord has a right to enter albeit with notice but the landlord cannot be prevented from entering. Get your head out of your ass

 

[Walt]

Arrest of a criminal is allowed.

No one in the apartment had a known arrest warrant. Over half the people were US citizens with ancestry going back over 200 years.

Even if there were arrest warrants, unless there is hot pursuit, the police cannot just break into someone's home.

If a fleeing criminal enters his apartment

The central fact of the raid is no one was fleeing. People were at home sleeping.

If you try to cross the border

Hundreds of miles from the border. No one crossing the border.

 

[Walt]

Incorrect. The lease does not control the space. The landlord has a right to enter albeit with notice but the landlord cannot be prevented from entering. Get your head out of your ass

Usually rental contracts reserve some rights for the landlord to enter, with notice, and to do repairs. This is not a right to give keys to the police for them to enter.

If a lease does not control the space, what good is it?

 

[Crepitus]

How many times has ICE entered a home without a warrant?

Estimates are several thousand times. ICE is of course not releasing any data about it.

The secret policy memorandum authorizing agents to enter homes using only administrative warrants (Form I-205) was issued in May 2025. This means the policy has been actively utilized by field offices for approximately one year.

If community-based operations average several hundred per day over a 12-month period, the total number of community-based interactions spans into the tens of thousands. Even if ICE agents only resort to forcing entry without a judicial warrant in a conservative 2% to 5% of these targeted residential encounters—such as when a subject refuses to open the door—the cumulative total easily reaches between 2,000 and 5,000 warrantless home entries nationwide.

 

[Crepitus]

Ok so? What should I do? Drive over to DC and tell trump to knock it off? You should have put up a better candidate for president and you could have continued to flood the country with millions of illegals but you failed.

Either you support the constitution and our way of life or you don't.

Choose.

 

[Crepitus]

I answered this already cum stain. The govt doesn't lots of shit thats "legal" but that doesn't make it right or just. Why are so fucking stupid?

It's a yes or no question, twit. You have not answered, you've weasled.

 

[Crepitus]

I'm not owned because the Brandon administration stomped all over my constitutional right during covid. Tell me they govt gives a fuck if my doctor gives me ivermectin? You fuckers whine because this is only a govt over reach you don't agree with but you have no problem using govt to violate people's right for things you do like. STFU

Btw the only thing I give you credit for is being a.litttle bitch

LMAO!!! YOu'r cooked, kid.

 

[Crepitus]

I gave you the example. That little bitch fauci making shit up about "social distancing" and restricting peoples lives. You people are evil. It's doesn't bother me that youre evil that's just how it is but like the devil you convince weal minded people youre righteous.

That's not an example, it's a whacky conspiracy theory.

 

[countryboy]

I do not know

Of course you don't, you never do.

 

[countryboy]

ICE claims the right to enter your home without a warrant.

Historically and very long established caselaw says the only time the GOVERNMENT has that right is if they are in hot pursuit if a dangerous felon.



Do you Trumppers agree with ICE, that they can simply enter homes without a warrant? Is this not the type of shit we quit England over? What about the 4th Amendment?

Are you libertarians upset? @Damocles

You always know it's bullshit when they don't cite any source whatsoever.

 

[Yakuda]

Usually rental contracts reserve some rights for the landlord to enter, with notice, and to do repairs. This is not a right to give keys to the police for them to enter.

If a lease does not control the space, what good is it?

What you said was by signing the lease the landlord sold the right to occupy and control the space. When someone sells a car they have no more control over it thats not the case with a lease of a building or a car. The tenant cannot altar the space, like knocking down walls to suit their personal needs. They have a right to occupy and some privacy but no control is sold to the tenant

 

[Nordberg]

Our home or apartment is viewed as a sanctuary. The 4th amendment says police require a warrant signed by a judge to enter. It can be bypassed if there is a medical emergency, if you consent or they are in hot pursuit.

 

[Into the Night]

No one in the apartment had a known arrest warrant.

Lie. Denial. ICE doesn't arrest anyone without cause. No police agency arrests anyone without cause.

Over half the people were US citizens with ancestry going back over 200 years.

Lie. Synthesis.

Even if there were arrest warrants, unless there is hot pursuit, the police cannot just break into someone's home.

Guess what, Wally. They can for just that reason.

The central fact of the raid is no one was fleeing.

Lie. Denial.

People were at home sleeping.


Hundreds of miles from the border. No one crossing the border.

Irrelevant.

 

[Into the Night]

Incorrect. The lease does not control the space. The landlord has a right to enter albeit with notice but the landlord cannot be prevented from entering. Get your head out of your ass

The landlord has the right (and responsibility) to enter WITHOUT notice for certain reasons, or to let police enter a unit WITHOUT notice for certain reasons.

Among these are fire or other hazard to life and limb, felonious activity, damage to the structure or any service in the structure, or by permission from the tenant.

 

[Matt Dillon]

completely incorrect. research renters laws

I am a landlord already, dude. I have already dealt with this.

Theft, fraud, criminal acts (such as drug dealing out of their unit, arson, criminal flight, etc) authorize the landlord AND the police to enter the unit WITHOUT WARRANT. This include ICE agents.

Bubba, I've been through this. Either the owner can give them permission, or they have to get a warrant.
Seen it happen both ways a couple times or more.