What would happen to the middle east if the Jews packed up and left?

Ok good points. But exposing these far right wing fruitcakes was worth it.
Incorrect. This is not a right-wing / left-wing issue. I am conservative and American Jews tend to be leftists. That totally fucks with your narrative.

You need to look at this as a religious issue, i.e. Team Israel (Jews and American Christians) proseltyzing Israeli supremacy while demonizing the Philistines (Palestinians), the "evil bad guys" of the Old Testament.
 
I don't demand they go anywhere but they probably should just disperse Any state based on religious zealotry is a failed state.

Of course I don't want them killed but I also have no interest in propping them up any more.
so you are just using opinions. Any state with you in it could be said to be a failed state

Or - any state that gives another nation money when in this much debt is a failed state.
 
so you are just using opinions. Any state with you in it could be said to be a failed state

Or - any state that gives another nation money when in this much debt is a failed state.
You get no argument from me about the state of the USA. Yes we are a failed state living on credit cards and love.
 
You hate Jews. We get it.
I am disgusted with Israel and they just happen to be run by Jews. I don't hate them but they sure seem to bring trouble with them where ever they turn up. They can do whatever floats their boat until it affects me. Which it does because I don't have any spare change for the bums with signs or them. And I sure as hell don't have any extra kids to die for them.
 
I don't demand they go anywhere but they probably should just disperse Any state based on religious zealotry is a failed state.

Of course I don't want them killed but I also have no interest in propping them up any more.
God said he gave that land to them, retard. Fuck whatever you say. :fart:
 
I am disgusted with Israel and they just happen to be run by Jews. I don't hate them but they sure seem to bring trouble with them where ever they turn up. They can do whatever floats their boat until it affects me. Which it does because I don't have any spare change for the bums with signs or them. And I sure as hell don't have any extra kids to die for them.
Oh course youre disgusted just like the KKK was with blacks. Israel just happens to be run by Jews????? LMFAO I didnt think a leftist could get more stupid but ...
 
Oh course youre disgusted just like the KKK was with blacks. Israel just happens to be run by Jews????? LMFAO I didnt think a leftist could get more stupid but ...
You know that I'm no leftist. All of you know that's bullshit but to avoid a real discussion that's what you fling. Pretty disappointing.

Maybe you can be the one to inform me of what loyalty I should have to Israel and why? Why should my tax dollars support them? Why should I fight their wars?

None of these other rabid posters here seem to be able to.

Someone. Anyone. Teach me!
 
what state is not a "failed state" exactly?

this seems an awful lot like a no true Scotsman fallacy
When the dollar finally crashes and hyper inflation sets in you will know. I don't know how old you are but I'm no spring chicken and it's going to happen in my lifetime.

We're off the cliff and just haven't hit the bottom as of yet. This empire is imploding fast.

As for what state isn't failed? You may not want to hear this but I would point to Russia who maintains fiscal discipline in spite of their other flaws.

Of course now all these whacked out fucks are going to start calling me comrade now. I will quickly go from Hitler to Stalin.

It's all good I don't come here to make friends. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
When the dollar finally crashes and hyper inflation sets in you will know. I don't know how old you are but I'm no spring chicken and it's going to happen in my lifetime.

We're off the cliff and just haven't hit the bottom as of yet. This empire is imploding fast.

As for what state isn't failed? You may not want to hear this but I would point to Russia who maintains fiscal discipline in spite of their other flaws.

Of course now all these whacked out fucks are going to start calling me comrade now. I will quickly go from Hitler to Stalin.

It's all good I don't come here to make friends. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
A “failed state” does not mean “a country with bad debt numbers” or “a country headed for monetary trouble.”

A failed state is usually one that cannot maintain basic sovereignty, law and order, public services, border control, institutional legitimacy, or a monopoly on force. the U.S. has serious fiscal rot, but it is not a failed state. Israel has serious security and political problems, but it is not a failed state either.

And Russia is a strange example. Yes, Russia has lower public debt than the U.S. But calling that “fiscal discipline” while it is running a wartime economy, burning resources in Ukraine, dealing with sanctions, high interest rates, weak growth, capital constraints, and demographic problems seems like grading only one line item on the spreadsheet.

I agree the U.S. fiscal path is dangerous. I am not hand-waving that away, But people also forget that this country already had a monetary reckoning in 1971.

Under Bretton Woods, foreign governments held dollars with the understanding that those dollars were convertible into gold. When that promise became impossible to maintain, Nixon closed the gold window. That was not “fiscal discipline.” That was the United States effectively saying: the old deal no longer works, so we are changing the deal.

France saw it coming and had already been demanding gold instead of paper promises. That is how serious the problem was.

So yes, the dollar can break. Yes, the current debt path is reckless. Yes, empires abuse reserve-currency privilege until the bill comes due.

But the lesson of 1971 is not “America collapses next.” The lesson is that powerful states often survive by changing the rules when the existing rules become impossible.

Maybe next time the world refuses to accept it. Maybe not.

But I would be careful betting against the country that already turned an international default into the foundation of the modern fiat-dollar system.
 
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