Do you support ground troops in Iran?

Jarod said:
The PP 'says' the US is going to take Karig Island, from what I understand that would require ground troops.

Do you support that?
Not support that?

Or

Are going to ignore, because of how embarrassed you are to be a Trumpper?
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I don’t support any of this foolishness. The billions of dollars it’s costing us. The further loss of human life is not worth it.
 
Cypress said:
History will forever know the MAGA morons as the people who started the Iraq War and the Iran War.
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I don't believe they will considering MAGA didn't exist until decades later...

Possibly they will "forever know" them as the ones that started a war with Iran... but they will not confuse them with folks that voted for Bush as he never once sold a red hat with MAGA on it.
 
The attempt to rewrite history to conflate these two different groups has been unsuccessful. Neo-cons included the people that Trump despised. He threw them out of the party.

The most glaring example, the daughter of the VP under Bush, Liz Cheney...
 
Damocles said:
I do not believe that they are. Neo-cons and MAGA are different things. MAGA drew some folks from the left... Neo-cons never did.
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Maybe, but there is huge overlap.

It's about devotion to a strong man where whatever they say or do is pure perfection. Its a mental phenonium. It happens in all strata of society. Middle School, Corporations, Politics... . Some people gravitate toward someone they can pretend has all the answers.
 
Damocles said:
I don't believe they will considering MAGA didn't exist until decades later...

Possibly they will "forever know" them as the ones that started a war with Iran... but they will not confuse them with folks that voted for Bush as he never once sold a red hat with MAGA on it.
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I know, you know, and history will know that almost the exact same people who insisted we invade Iraq are almost the exact same people who cheered for the Iran war.
 
Damocles said:
The attempt to rewrite history to conflate these two different groups has been unsuccessful. Neo-cons included the people that Trump despised. He threw them out of the party.

The most glaring example, the daughter of the VP under Bush, Liz Cheney...
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The Sleepy PP, only ever threw out people who dared disobey him. It was not about ideology. Cheney was thrown out because she called The Sleepy PP out.

Id love to see a study to determine what percentage of voters who were fanatic fans of GWB are also fanatic fans of The Sleepy PP.


With absolute certainty, had he lived, Dixie would be a PP fanatic.
 
Jarod said:
Maybe, but there is huge overlap.

It's about devotion to a strong man where whatever they say or do is pure perfection. Its a mental phenonium. It happens in all strata of society. Middle School, Corporations, Politics... . Some people gravitate toward someone they can pretend has all the answers.
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There isn't really. Again, this is an attempt to redefine groups that are so disparate that one group throws out the other and rejects it for being RINO....

I get that you do not like either group, but this idea that they are the "same" is only based on how you dislike them the same, not on any factual information.
 
Jarod said:
Maybe, but there is huge overlap.

It's about devotion to a strong man where whatever they say or do is pure perfection. Its a mental phenonium. It happens in all strata of society. Middle School, Corporations, Politics... . Some people gravitate toward someone they can pretend has all the answers.
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Spoken like a classic weak man
 
Damocles said:
There isn't really. Again, this is an attempt to redefine groups that are so disparate that one group throws out the other and rejects it for being RINO....
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I think you are incorrect. All the people I knew who called me "Unamerican" because I was against the war in Iraq, are Trumppers now. Its a clear line.
 
Cypress said:
I know, you know, and history will know that almost the exact same people who insisted we invade Iraq are almost the exact same people who cheered for the Iran war.
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I know that you know that MAGA rejects neo-cons in a way that resembles how you rejected them...
 
Damocles said:
I know that you know that MAGA rejects neo-cons in a way that resembles how you rejected them...
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Those I called neo-cons back in the day are now Trumppers. - 'Search your feelings, you know it to be true'

It was not about the ideology, more about the personality.
 
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Jarod said:
I think you are incorrect. All the people I knew who called me "Unamerican" because I was against the war in Iraq, are Trumppers now. Its a clear line.
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Again, this pretends that things like Liz Cheney's rejection never happened, that the ideas and actions of these two groups are very different. I think you want to conflate them in people's heads and that you will repeat it constantly in the hopes that you will be successful at this, but it is demonstrably false in how these people voted. You and I both know it is dishonest, but only one of us cares about honesty.
 
Jarod said:
The Sleepy PP, only ever threw out people who dared disobey him. It was not about ideology. Cheney was thrown out because she called The Sleepy PP out.

Id love to see a study to determine what percentage of voters who were fanatic fans of GWB are also fanatic fans of The Sleepy PP.


With absolute certainty, had he lived, Dixie would be a PP fanatic.
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Dixie would have loved Trump's robotic dance moves as much as he loved seeing GWB in blue jeans.
 
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