The paint is now peeling at Trump's $14 million reflecting pool "renovation"

It seems like after the Iran fiasco you are still proud of your three consecutive votes for Trump, and have decided to go down with the SS Trump no matter what happens.
Cry moar! :rofl2:
Listen, dipshit, if I think Trump made a mistake, I'll call it right the fuck out, because I'm like that.
This thing with Iran he was just playing "good cop". (If you know what that means)
I do, because the neighborhood females would use real detective tactics on us fellers. :palm:
Yeah, they had it downpat.
"You were out with who?", "Well so and so said you did this and this", then you pipe up with "no, no, we just did this",
and then they go.. "A-HA! Gotcha, motherfucker! Busted!".
Yeah, they'd separate us and compare stories like detectives. :LOL:
 
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Cry moar! :rofl2:
Listen, dipshit, if I think Trump made a mistake, I'll call it right the fuck out, because I'm like that.
This thing with Iran he was just playing "good cop". (If you know what that means)
I do, because the neighborhood females would use real detective tactics on us fellers. :palm:
Yeah, they had it downpat.
"You were out with who?", "Well so and so said you did this and this", then you pipe up with "no, no, we just did this",
and then they go.. "A-HA! Gotcha, motherfucker! Busted!".
Yeah, they'd separate us and compare stories like detectives. :LOL:
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This barely seems like intelligible English.​
 
Grok:

Poor Richard's reply basically doubles down with more dismissal and sarcasm, treating the detailed genetic fallacy explanation + economic mechanics. Classic move when substance isn't engaged.

Still no engagement on the actual substance—just more source dismissal.

Genetic fallacy doesn't vanish because you dislike Grok.

The US can't be forced into "bankruptcy" like a business because it prints the currency its debts are denominated in.

  • Debt-to-GDP is high (~100-123%) but sustainable in the near term (see Japan, post-WWII US); long-term fiscal issues are bipartisan.
  • 4.2% inflation, quarterly GDP noise, and debt rises happened under multiple presidents.

The extraordinary claim ("Trump bankrupting America") still lacks extraordinary evidence.
I didn't dismiss Grok because I dislike Grok. Grok is fantasizing about my emotions by claiming I dislike Grok. Grok failed to understand the sarcasm in the first answer and then pretends Grok did understand it by saying I doubled down. Grok doesn't seem to be aware of how often Diogenes posts answers from Grok that are inaccurate or incomplete. The problem with Grok as evidenced by many of the answers Diogenes has posted from Grok is that Grok fails to understand many things and often gets simple facts wrong. This could be a result of Diogenes not asking the right questions but when Grok ignores facts to reach a conclusion it raises questions about Grok's ability to answer even simple questions. For instance when I asked Grok about whether an aircraft carrier could fit through the Panama Canal, Grok said yes and then proceeded to give dimensions of the canal and an aircraft carrier and the aircraft carrier was wider then the canal.

The other thing about Grok getting answers wrong is Grok simply pulls information from online sources without any verification that the sources are factual or not. Grok has hallucinations. Grok made wrong assumptions about my statement. Grok can say my statement is correct by simply providing an example where it is correct. Grok provide an example where an argument using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok.

Grok, Does that example prove that an argument made using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok?


Grok, Why did you argue that this claim was a logical fallacy without considering that it could be true? "An argument made using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok."
 
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Grok:

Poor Richard's reply basically doubles down with more dismissal and sarcasm, treating the detailed genetic fallacy explanation + economic mechanics. Classic move when substance isn't engaged.

Still no engagement on the actual substance—just more source dismissal.

Genetic fallacy doesn't vanish because you dislike Grok.

The US can't be forced into "bankruptcy" like a business because it prints the currency its debts are denominated in.

  • Debt-to-GDP is high (~100-123%) but sustainable in the near term (see Japan, post-WWII US); long-term fiscal issues are bipartisan.
  • 4.2% inflation, quarterly GDP noise, and debt rises happened under multiple presidents.

The extraordinary claim ("Trump bankrupting America") still lacks extraordinary evidence.
Does your example prove that those that assert using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok.?

Grok: Yes, it demonstrates it clearly.

After asking Grok my questions I then asked Grok the following -

Has Grok ever informed anyone else in a different conversation that "Those that assert using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok." is a logical fallacy
Thought for 9s

Grok: No.I have not informed anyone in any conversation that "Those that assert using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok." is a logical fallacy. My consistent stance (including in this thread) is the reverse:
  • Arguments should be evaluated and can be properly dismissed/refuted on their merits — by examining evidence, logic, premises, and counter-evidence — independent of the source.
  • This is standard, valid reasoning, not a fallacy.


Is Grok a liar or is Diogenes a liar? Or is Grok just delusional and trying to please the questioner by giving different answers and then denying the answer they gave someone else?
 
I dont understand it lol. I get corruption and using a bad contractor but even the worse contractor ive worked with doesnt have the building collapse right after building it. This didnt even last 30 days. In the corporate world this wouldnt even be enough time to cut the final check.
Yup.

But this is what happens when kleptocracy takes over government and nothing is awarded via any merit. A "friend" of those in power gets big contracts and gets to over bill, meanwhile they have no experience in the job they were hired to do.

This is nothing new and was exemplified Putin's initial military caravan into Ukraine that just shut down and was stranded on the road.

And yet the raving mad magats pretend it was affirmative action that lead to unqualified people getting jobs when the opposite is true and Trump's White House, top to bottom, proves that every day.
 
Cry moar! :rofl2:
Listen, dipshit, if I think Trump made a mistake, I'll call it right the fuck out, because I'm like that.
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AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

You are crashing out with an ability to cope that Trump and those he hired were this visibly incompetent such that they applied a paint liner that they obviously did not know the process to ensure it would adhere to the surface and not peel off.

To avoid "calling it the fuck out" as incompetence you have convinced yourself this was some secret infiltration by 'others' who are 'experts in chemicals' to lift such a surface. You convince yourself they are some stealth group that beat the 24/7 camera security of one of the highest surveilled areas in America.

AHAHAAHAHAHA.

You are lost in the spin zone due to this visible and undeniable Trump failure leaving you no way out to cope other than jumping to this new mythology which is an obviously lie.

There will be NO PROOF of any such chemical dumps by others that started this, but Trump and his DoJ might well charge some people they can identify for tearing bits of the surfacing liner out and then accuse of them 'causing' this mess as a way to try to cover up their incompetence. Stupid people will believe them. But courts won't. Maybe a charge for tearing a piece of it stick but none of the made up shit will.
 
BREAKING: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Paranoid, delusional Trump blames “vandals” for sabotaging his perfect Reflecting Pool and orders law enforcement to INVESTIGATE!

This is truly beyond pathetic…
The ongoing saga of the algae that has taken over the Reflecting Pool is reaching new levels of stupidity as Trump’s frustrations with literally everything spill over.

In a completely insane Truth Social post, the President of the United States claimed that “vandalism” was responsible for the algae blooms and demanded that law enforcement investigate this heinous crime of, uh, putting algae in a pool that is notorious for having algae problems.

“We’ve had some real problems with Vandalism at the beautiful Reflecting Pool, which sits between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Just like three days ago, they destroyed the grass outside of the Pool, they’ve also done everything possible to hurt the inside surface that was just installed.”

“No different than the chemicals that were used on the National Mall, they used something similar in the Reflecting Pool to try to destroy and demean our beautiful work. Lightweight ABC Reporter, Jonathan Karl, was seen sticking his hand into the Pool, and trying to rip the rubber off of the surface. The algae is 75% gone, and the condition will soon be completely remedied, and the area that was vandalized, fortunately, is just a small area of damage, and will be fixed early next week.”

“It’s a shame that the Radical Left Lunatics, most likely Dumocats, who have spent their lives trying to ruin our Country, are free to do so. Law Enforcement is actively investigating this situation and will hopefully have it resolved soon. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

Trump tried to reinforce his point by sharing another post of some pranksters who were walking around the Pool with shirts and signs that read “TEAM ALGAE.”

We’re so used to Donald Trump’s war with reality that it’s honestly completely unsurprising that he would say this, but let’s think about this again.

The president of the United States is alleging that vandals are deliberately introducing algae into the Reflecting Pool and using chemicals to ruin the paint job. This is nucking futs!

Trump, it was your decision to paint the pool blue, at enormous expense, thus allowing more heat from the sunlight to be absorbed into the pool and creating a petri dish for algae to flourish.

Trump, it was your government that poured hydrogen peroxide into the pool and ruined the paint job.

All of this is your fault, you absolute moron!

Hello, Congress? 25th Amendment, please!
Occupy Democrats

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BREAKING: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Paranoid, delusional Trump blames “vandals” for sabotaging his perfect Reflecting Pool and orders law enforcement to INVESTIGATE!

This is truly beyond pathetic…
The ongoing saga of the algae that has taken over the Reflecting Pool is reaching new levels of stupidity as Trump’s frustrations with literally everything spill over.

In a completely insane Truth Social post, the President of the United States claimed that “vandalism” was responsible for the algae blooms and demanded that law enforcement investigate this heinous crime of, uh, putting algae in a pool that is notorious for having algae problems.

“We’ve had some real problems with Vandalism at the beautiful Reflecting Pool, which sits between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Just like three days ago, they destroyed the grass outside of the Pool, they’ve also done everything possible to hurt the inside surface that was just installed.”

“No different than the chemicals that were used on the National Mall, they used something similar in the Reflecting Pool to try to destroy and demean our beautiful work. Lightweight ABC Reporter, Jonathan Karl, was seen sticking his hand into the Pool, and trying to rip the rubber off of the surface. The algae is 75% gone, and the condition will soon be completely remedied, and the area that was vandalized, fortunately, is just a small area of damage, and will be fixed early next week.”

“It’s a shame that the Radical Left Lunatics, most likely Dumocats, who have spent their lives trying to ruin our Country, are free to do so. Law Enforcement is actively investigating this situation and will hopefully have it resolved soon. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

Trump tried to reinforce his point by sharing another post of some pranksters who were walking around the Pool with shirts and signs that read “TEAM ALGAE.”

We’re so used to Donald Trump’s war with reality that it’s honestly completely unsurprising that he would say this, but let’s think about this again.

The president of the United States is alleging that vandals are deliberately introducing algae into the Reflecting Pool and using chemicals to ruin the paint job. This is nucking futs!

Trump, it was your decision to paint the pool blue, at enormous expense, thus allowing more heat from the sunlight to be absorbed into the pool and creating a petri dish for algae to flourish.

Trump, it was your government that poured hydrogen peroxide into the pool and ruined the paint job.

All of this is your fault, you absolute moron!

Hello, Congress? 25th Amendment, please!
Occupy Democrats


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Magats WILL NEVER take responsibility for their own mistakes.

This is a core function of the right. Incompetence followed by blaming others for the problems they create.
 
WRONG.

Trump was clear ""We called on swimming pool contractors we have worked with in the past to get a quote..." cite

and only changed when he found out giving friendlies a no bid contract like was illegal.

Poor Rusty, just like Matt, cannot cope with how inept Trump is so they have to lie about every aspect of what Trump did here to give themselves an alternate reality where Trump is still perfect to cling to. :rofl2:
Trump : ...So I actually went over, went with Secret Service and a group of people and I took a look at it. One of the people with me was Doug Burgum, our great secretary of the interior. This comes under his purview. And he said, yes, we've had a lot of problems with it. It's not working. It hasn't worked for many years and it's always filthy, dirty.

And I said, well, we're going to solve the problem. And they had bids to fix it. They were going to take the stone out, which was granite, very expensive, very thick, and replace it with stone and it was going to cost $300 million. And it was going to take maybe more than three years. And I said, no, there's a better way of doing it. I said, what we're going to do is I'm going to call all three of these people that have worked for me in the past, doing swimming pools.

That's all they can do, is a swimming pool. And I said, give me a good price. We can do it for maybe a $1.5 million to $2 million, as opposed to $300 million. We scrubbed the surface of the existing granite that's been there since 1922. We then grouted all of the granite, fixed it up, took about two weeks, and now we have a nice, clean surface on which we're putting an industrial-grade swimming pool topping.

And they said, what color would you like, sir? It's called American Flag Blue. I said, that's the color I want. I want American flag blue. It'll last for 40 or 50 years. There'll be no leaks. There'll be no anything. It'll look gorgeous, beautiful. So it's a story on business. And here's the difference, because somebody said, well, sir, but, one, wouldn't it be a better job?

I said, no, no, this is a much better job for much less money. It will look far more beautiful, more beautiful than it did in 1922 when they built it, much more beautiful. So we build it in much less time for much less money, but I don't mean much less. I mean numbers that nobody can even believe. So it's $1.5 million versus $300 million. It's two weeks versus more than three years. And that's just the way it is. Thank you for your attention to this matter...

Poor Pee Pee. You claimed I am "uneducated." Lets go at it...

The rest of your Psychobabble is bullshit.
 
Does your example prove that those that assert using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok.?

Grok: Yes, it demonstrates it clearly.

After asking Grok my questions I then asked Grok the following -

Has Grok ever informed anyone else in a different conversation that "Those that assert using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok." is a logical fallacy
Thought for 9s

Grok: No.I have not informed anyone in any conversation that "Those that assert using Grok can be dismissed without using Grok." is a logical fallacy. My consistent stance (including in this thread) is the reverse:
  • Arguments should be evaluated and can be properly dismissed/refuted on their merits — by examining evidence, logic, premises, and counter-evidence — independent of the source.
  • This is standard, valid reasoning, not a fallacy.


Is Grok a liar or is Diogenes a liar? Or is Grok just delusional and trying to please the questioner by giving different answers and then denying the answer they gave someone else?


Grok:

Poor Richard, different chats = different context. In this thread, with full visibility of your source-based dismissal, I called the tactic a genetic fallacy. Your narrow standalone query got a general answer. No contradiction—just normal AI behavior based on what's asked.
 
Poor Pee Pee. You claimed I am "uneducated." Lets go at it...

The rest of your Psychobabble is bullshit.
And yet because you are poorly educated you are incapable of understanding what I say next.

Rusty, it was not me who identified you as the poorly educated. It was Trump who recognized it and called you out.

I know that has to sting. I see you spinning in denial of it as you refuse to recognize it was Trump as that would require you to contradict him and you cannot do that due to your TDS. so you are trapped in your poorly educated mind pretending it is me, and not Trump who called you out.
 
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