What is "Democratic Socialism?"

[Sailor]

Why are you asking me that when i never said "taken over"? Ask whatever person who said that.

I can tell you how he has used a whole of gov't approach "...to force key ownership and control in private companies, wield the agencies of the Federal gov't to shape and control Law firms, big media, Charities and non profits, and Religious institutions..."

Feel free to do that. With reputable, non biased sources. I can wait.

 

[QP!]

Feel free to do that. With reputable, non biased sources. I can wait.

name the sources you will accept first.

 

[Sailor]

name the sources you will accept first.

Just read what I wrote. Pretty clear.

 

[QP!]

Just read what I wrote. Pretty clear.

I am not going to waste my time finding what i consider 'reputable sources' that prove my point only to have you say 'try again, i do not consider that source reputable', when you might only consider magat sources reputable.

If you won't clarify your ask then find someone else to answer it.

 

[Sailor]

I am not going to waste my time finding what i consider 'reputable sources' that prove my point only to have you say 'try again, i do not consider that source reputable', when you might only consider magat sources reputable.

If you won't clarify your ask then find someone else to answer it.

That is really easy to do QP. Nothing far left, nothing far right. Believe it or not there are still media sources that just report fact. Not conjecture, not opinion.

 

[Librtlover]

A lot of supposedly Democrats these days call themselves Democratic Socialists, and are really members of the Democratic Socialists of America.

So, what is it?

To put the DSA in its proper context, one would have to understand that there is zero 'DEMOCRATIC' ideology-agenda connected with these leftist socialists. In fact, their socialist agenda apples the direct opposite of anything relating to DEMOCRATIC. This is another reason why we sane and intelligent people call that far left party The Democrat Socialist Party of America, or as the Democrat Socialist anti American Party.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That is really easy to do QP. Nothing far left, nothing far right. Believe it or not there are still media sources that just report fact. Not conjecture, not opinion.

Just posting several sources that give different perspectives is usually enough.

 

[QP!]

That is really easy to do QP. Nothing far left, nothing far right. Believe it or not there are still media sources that just report fact. Not conjecture, not opinion.

And yet you won't name the ones you are ok with that "just report fact" and that, i suspect is so that no matter who i find, if you do not like what they report, you can then call them 'biased' and hand wave it away without addressing it.

If you name them first, then you lose that ability when they report what you do not like.

So since you refuse to the very basic thing of simply naming the sources you will trust and want to me to 'guess' and then 'hope' you will accept them, i am out. Demanding information while refusing to give any just does not work here.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

To put the DSA in its proper context, one would have to understand that there is zero 'DEMOCRATIC' ideology-agenda connected with these leftist socialists. In fact, their socialist agenda apples the direct opposite of anything relating to DEMOCRATIC. This is another reason why we sane and intelligent people call that far left party The Democrat Socialist Party of America, or as the Democrat Socialist anti American Party.

The only "Democratic" thing about them is that's how they want to be put in power--by a direct popular vote. Once in power, no more voting as they have what they want. Then, they'll tell you to look back on that one vote as a mandate for their dictatorship.

 

[Sailor]

And yet you won't name the ones you are ok with that "just report fact" and that, i suspect is so that no matter who i find, if you do not like what they report, you can then call them 'biased' and hand wave it away without addressing it.

If you name them first, then you lose that ability when they report what you do not like.

So since you refuse to the very basic thing of simply naming the sources you will trust and want to me to 'guess' and then 'hope' you will accept them, i am out. Demanding information while refusing to give any just does not work here.

Look. Just admit you cannot post anything viable to prove your point without a left wing spin to it. Then move on. Or better yet, just move on.

 

[QP!]

Look. Just admit you cannot post anything viable to prove your point without a left wing spin to it. Then move on. Or better yet, just move on.

I have tons of sources as this was all over the news sourcfes.

i simply won't play your game of 'you saying there lots of acceptable sources but refuse to name any until you get to read what they say so you can then decide if they are acceptable or not'.

You do not get to demand people do work for you and provide you 'acceptable sources' while you sit back and say 'i refuse to identify what an acceptable source is'.

Like most magats you get to play with yourself if that is your approach.

 

[Nordberg]

We have an oligarchy now. I wish you Trumpys would take the time to discover the differences between socialism and communism.
Lots of enlightened nations have democracy, capitalism and what Trumpys call socialism. It is what we mostly have with a better distribution of wealth.
When the wealthy have control, this is what you get.

 

[Librtlover]

We have an oligarchy now. I wish you Trumpys would take the time to discover the differences between socialism and communism.
Lots of enlightened nations have democracy, capitalism and what Trumpys call socialism. It is what we mostly have with a better distribution of wealth.
When the wealthy have control, this is what you get.

I see you flunked Eco 101 and also flunked political science, that is if you ever even got that far in school.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

We have an oligarchy now.

No, we don't.

I wish you Trumpys would take the time to discover the differences between socialism and communism.

Explain the differences. I bet you don't know what they are and are talking out your ass.

Lots of enlightened nations have democracy, capitalism and what Trumpys call socialism. It is what we mostly have with a better distribution of wealth.
When the wealthy have control, this is what you get.

The US has a better distribution of wealth than many of the countries you think are "enlightened" do.

 

[Sailor]

I have tons of sources as this was all over the news sourcfes.

i simply won't play your game of 'you saying there lots of acceptable sources but refuse to name any until you get to read what they say so you can then decide if they are acceptable or not'.

You do not get to demand people do work for you and provide you 'acceptable sources' while you sit back and say 'i refuse to identify what an acceptable source is'.

Like most magats you get to play with yourself if that is your approach.

You lose again. Democrat dunce.

 

[Nordberg]

I see you flunked Eco 101 and also flunked political science, that is if you ever even got that far in school.

You have no idea how wrong you are. The nations with the highest happiness coefficients are these with a better safety nets, universal healthcare and free education. Every nation above us in the happiness coefficients are capitalists. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world
Your slanted right wing reading has made you more stupid. You type from a right wing bubble.
You may never understand how little you know. You are narrow minded and a bigot.

 

[countryboy]

Trump has went further on that then Bernie ever has in the past. Bernie is now upping his game to ask for more, in that regard because of Trump.

Find any example PRIOR to Trump grabbing golden shares, picking corporate winners and losers to invest in, where Bernie called for same or more than Trump and quote it here if you can.

what Mandami is trying to do will be so minor as to be not even comparable in scale and scope and threat to the markets.

For instance, Intel has received billions in contracts from the gov't since that Trump deal... is that because they are the best and most suited or because the gov't wants to help build their investment up to claim success and not see Intel fail?

That is what happens when the gov't picks winners and losers, as those contracts could have otherwise went to perhaps a better company and the US benefitted much more. The moral hazard of Trumps socialism is that it can hold down the entire sectors they do it, if gov't contracts are a big part in those as gov't favors their chosen 'winners'.

Who's "Mandami"? Do libs ever actually know anything?

 

[Ross Dolan]

To put the DSA in its proper context, one would have to understand that there is zero 'DEMOCRATIC' ideology-agenda connected with these leftist socialists. In fact, their socialist agenda apples the direct opposite of anything relating to DEMOCRATIC. This is another reason why we sane and intelligent people call that far left party The Democrat Socialist Party of America, or as the Democrat Socialist anti American Party.

Not really sure if you are more nuts than stupid or more stupid than nuts.

I'll continue to read your rants and see if I can decide. When I do, I will let you now...although I doubt there is anything you can do about it no matter how things come down.

 

[Ross Dolan]

The only "Democratic" thing about them is that's how they want to be put in power--by a direct popular vote. Once in power, no more voting as they have what they want. Then, they'll tell you to look back on that one vote as a mandate for their dictatorship.

There is much projection in this one.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

There is much projection in this one.

No, there isn't. That's how past Socialist governments have worked--the ones that fully embraced socialism. Look at the latest case, Venezuela. That is exactly what happened there. Chavez, the Socialist took power. Elections were rigged to ensure he remained in power. When he died, his appointed successor took power. Elections were rigged to ensure he remained in power. Democracy became nothing more than a meaningless word used to give the illusion that those in power had some mandate from the people.