So what is Plan A?

QP! said:
You are correct but not in the way you think.

Every woman KNOWS she has the choice to let it be born and to have the baby. There is no woman who does not know that, once she is pregnant.

The "choices" they do not know are with regards to abortion access as an option. Many have to go to clinic to find out what those options are.

I am glad you agree that they need to know those options and the "choices" they have.
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I'm okay if we agree to disagree on certain things...
 
QP! said:
We do not 'agree to disagree' on this topic as i am right and you are wrong. You do not understand how that term is applied or used.
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I'm not wrong.... You apply whatever rule you like.... And I'll be realistic.... Because that's how things actually work with real people...
 
TOP said:
View attachment 87555I prefer to celebrate life....
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We all celebrate life.

What that DOES NOT mean, is that we think it is wrong for people to use contraception while having sex as that prevents "life" from happening that you can then celebrate.

I guess i should acknowledge many religious nuts do think it is wrong for people to use contraception for that reason and would use the power of government to prevent them doing it, if they could as they are like you and wrongly recognize the POTENTIAL for life, if allowed to proceed unobstructed, as a baby.
 
TOP said:
I'm not wrong.... You apply whatever rule you like.... And I'll be realistic.... Because that's how things actually work with real people...
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Except you are wrong. And stupid, which keeps you from understanding you are wrong. But you have been wrong in most things you have said in this chat and most others.
 
QP! said:
We all celebrate life.

What that DOES NOT mean, is that we think it is wrong for people to use contraception while having sex as that prevents "life" from happening that you can then celebrate.

I guess i should acknowledge many religious nuts do think it is wrong for people to use contraception for that reason and would use the power of government to prevent them doing it, if they could as they are like you and wrongly recognize the POTENTIAL for life, if allowed to proceed unobstructed, as a baby.
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You don't celebrate life if you end it...
 
QP! said:
FYP...

And i disagree with it.

Not allowing it to progress to the point where it is viable is not what you pretend it is.
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If you have to change my post to make Some point there is no point... I'm not pretending anything And have no problem with birth control To prevent pregnancy...
 
Teflon Don said:
Saw a commercial for the abortion pill Plan B. And it made me ask the question. If this pill is Plan Bl what was Plan A?

If there was a plan why the need to kill a baby?

Or does it mean if the first plan to kill the baby fails use this?

Because if you plan not to get pregnant,there is a 100% foolproof way to do it. Works every time it is tried.
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Poor ignorant goy , Not everyone thinks as you christ stains do


In Judaism, protecting the life and health of the pregnant individual is not only permitted but is a religious imperative. While a fetus has potential worth, it does not possess legal personhood until birth. Therefore, if a pregnancy endangers the mother's life or physical and mental health, abortion is required.

The Priority of the Mother's Life
  • The Mother's Rights: Jewish law (Halakha) dictates that the pregnant individual's well-being always supersedes the fetus, as existing life takes precedence.
  • The Concept of Pursuer (Rodef): If a pregnancy poses a threat to the mother's life (whether definitive or probable), abortion is permitted—and in some streams, deemed obligatory—under the principle of self-defense against a "pursuer".
  • Mental Health: Many movements interpret "health" to encompass psychological and mental well-being, which allows for exemptions in cases of trauma or fetal distress.
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Judaism and Reproductive Rights - Jewish Theological Seminary

At the end of August 1993, I joined some 100 religious leaders of a moderate stripe who were invited by the President and First Lady for breakfast at the White House. What gave the event an added dose of excitement for me was the good luck to be seated at the President's table.
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Is an imperfect baby not deserving of life?
 
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TOP said:
If you have to change my post to make Some point there is no point... I'm not pretending anything And have no problem with birth control To prevent pregnancy...
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And what would you say to the people who would tell you, you are wrong for being ok with birth control and who would use the force of law to prevent all such use?
 
Are "imperfect"human beings not deserving of life?
QP! said:
And what would you say to the people who would tell you, you are wrong for being ok with birth control and who would use the force of law to prevent all such use?
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no one is not allowing birth control ....there are plenty of options..
The problem is thst 1.2 million women a year are sermingly unable to figure out a way to not get pregnant....
 
Guno צְבִי said:
Here's the thing, if she wants believe when life starts fine, don't have an abortion but don't make everyone else who is not MAGAT christer trash bow down to that garbage
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So I can arbitrarily decide your life isn't worth shit and take it?

Once you do that where do you stop?
 
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