Everyone understands that Socialism is not Communism, right?

Lionfish said:
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There are examples of socialism's failure everywhere.

Iran (it used to be a peaceful country!), Cuba (most of the time without power now), North Korea (only the palace has regular power), NYC (filled with crime, and only the 'elite' have air conditioning and food and people and businesses are fleeing), the SDTC (filled with crime and where major businesses and people are fleeing), Canada (where only 'the elite' can get proper medical treatment or escape hefty tariffs), the USSR (which collapsed), Nazi Germany (which was destroyed at a terrible cost in WW2), the City of Detroit (once a beautiful city, now looks like a bombsight), the City of Chicago (once a world class trading center, now filled with violent crime and daily shootings and gang warfare), the City of Seattle (once a vibrant community and home to several companies like Boeing, Starbucks, and Amazon, now filled with homeless, gangs, and violent crime...Boeing and Amazon and Starbucks had to flee!).

Socialism only brings destruction and misery. It is based on theft of wealth.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The operative 'thinking' on the Left about making Socialism, or Communism, work is that they can somehow convince nearly everyone to become altruistic.

al·tru·ism
[ˈaltrʊɪz(ə)m]
noun
altruism (noun)
  1. selfless concern for the well-being of others, without care for one's own interests; unselfishness

They somehow convince themselves that they, by rhetorical and use of government, get everyone to do things for others at the expense of their own wellbeing. That defies human nature. People tend to be greedy and selfish. They want 'stuff' for themselves and they sure as hell are not about to willingly and freely work hard and see the results from that given to others, particularly someone who is lazy and not contributing.

This inevitably results in government becoming a brutal dictatorship that forces society to do what they refuse to do willingly. The Left sees this as just an intermediate step until people wise up and recognize the great benefits of giving their shit away to people they see as worthless.

Socialism is the economic system championed by the lazy and stupid, as well as the most greedy and dictatorial in a society. Normal people, everybody else, sees this as an asinine strategy to fuck them over and want no part of it.
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Get rid of safety net and see what happens.
 
Yakuda said:
it says any powers not granted to the fed revert to the state. There is no reason for a dept of education. On top of that the fed does very little to provide for t he general welfare.
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The 'general welfare' clause is not even socialism. It is a directive to the government that the authority it DOES have under the Constitution is to be used for the general welfare of the nation. In other words, this authority is strictly to be used to benefit the nation. It does NOT mean 'socialism' and does NOT grant any authority to ignore the rest of the Constitution. The Pretender still understand this, because he doesn't understand English and never read the Constitution of the United States.

Indeed, the Pretender doesn't even know what a constitution IS...a contract.
 
If we allow Capitalism to run free, we would have children work, unsanitary and unsafe conditions and the rest of people wither away.
 
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