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so do you. More than i do.
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I put that MAGAT twit on ignore in his first week here. He's still here, I guess? What's he hand-wringing about now? The fact that I correctly stated that the southern Democrats of the pre- and post-Civil War period are now the Republikkkans of today? In my lifetime, the Southern states had leaders like George Wallace and Strom Thurmond and were solid (D) voters. Once the Civil Rights Act passed and they discovered that integration was inevitable, they switched to the Republican Party where the majority of southern voters are today. I don't know why this is so hard for MAGATs to grok. I guess it's hard to believe that your chosen party is a hotbed of racist haters.
Another amusing thing about the false claim that the KKK is composed of (D) voters -- how can that be when for years Trump and the MAGATs have accused Democratsof pandering to minorities and marginalized groups like the LGBTQ community, promoting DEI in the workplace and in the government, being "WOKE," and otherwise engaging in "Identity politics"? How does that jibe with being racist?
MAGATs are not logical.
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T. A. Gardner
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Name something that government does better and cheaper than the private sector.
QP!
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Smart. I will likely put him on ignore soon as a spam bot.
Yes he cannot address your points and so is not trying but trying to pretend an exact focus on you s saying '200 years ago' proves him right. The strategy of someone who knows they lost and is desperate to cling to anything they can, like a spelling mistake or other.
And yes magats do not care about history and how it is historical fact that the racist mostly Southerner base of the prior Dem party mostly all switched to the republican party and the Northern Republicans (more liberal) switched to the Dem party.
they do not care who they will, at one moment call the Dem's woke and pandering to minorities, etc, and then try and spin this lie that Dem's are the racists against the same ones they are accused of pandering too.
they are amusing in their stupidity.
T. A. Gardner
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Only because we don't have a private military to compare that to. Not a valid example.
QP!
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A government 'for and of the people' can do the following better and cheaper than the private sector :
- Roads
- Military
- Policing, Fire, Coast Guard, Border security
- Electrical grid
- Water management and provisioning
- Taxation and Wealth redistribution (necessary when a gov't provides the above)
- Social Safety net (again necessary when gov't provides above)
- public transit
- Disaster management
- Ports, air traffic control and waterways
- Courts
- Prisons
- elections
- Public Health initiatives
- food safety, water
- weather monitoring, forecasting
- Resource management (fisheries, parks, wildlife, etc)
- Currency
- central banking
- Regulations (Financial, Consumer protection, Bankruptcy, etc)
- Postal services
QP!
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Private militaries have been tried world wide and they fail as their interests are the 'owners interests' primarily and not the nations which is inherent to them being privately owned.
It is like arguing a warlords well run private militia or police force in a third world country is better than one empowered by a gov't 'for and of the people'. the private one may be efficient as hell as they enforce the Warlords will and stated laws, but they are not the 'peoples' and such that comparison fails.
Word: Halliburton.
He is clearly talking about the US military and private military. Where is there a private military in the US? There is nothing to compare it to. Though my bet would be on the US military 100%.
And your overseas private military example falls apart with the question. Who runs a better, more efficient Military? Government or private? Many private armies that have overwhelmed government armies in 3rd world countries answers that question.
Jerry Mathers
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the private sector lies about medicine and eschews medical truth and profits hugely off the government.
shut the fuck up fascist anti-human genocider.
then eat your bag of dicks.
libertarians suck shit.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
yes. but where is the loyalty of private armies.
this is bulllshit elitism and ends in mass murder and genocide.
you know better than this.
T. A. Gardner
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Nope. The private sector builds roads. The government might order them, but the private sector builds them.
As I pointed out to the Foul Owl, there is no private army to compare this to so we really don't know.
Private security, fire, etc., often outperform the government both in efficiency and cost.
Most of that is private and all of it was built by private companies, even if it is partially controlled by government.
As with electricity.
We don't need wealth redistribution and taxation is questionable in efficiency.
Private agencies and such often provide better services at lower cost than the government.
Where privately operated public transit has existed, it ran at a profit rather than a massive loss.
I could go through the rest, but it's the same thing. Private entities doing the same thing do it better and cheaper than the government.
T. A. Gardner
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Halliburton is a construction company including things like oil fields.
Halliburton, engineering solutions for global energy needs
Halliburton delivers advanced products and services to meet the evolving needs of the global energy industry, driving innovation, reliability, and performance.
QP!
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WRONG. physically building the road while important is not the core of what government does with regards to roads. Planning the routes that connect the roads and how they move thru communities and connect communities, cities and States, is the most important part and gov't manages that and they do so BETTER than the private sector
WRONG. History is full of private armies controlled and run by warlords, gangs, etc and they do what a private army does which is serve the one paying them, first and foremost, over the broader society. the exact outcome you would expect from a private army owned by a person or a corporation.
WRONG and cite that. And cite for whose interests they serve. Do they outperform when it comes to helping the poor person down the street who does not pay them or are you saying thee do a better job for those paying them? As "society" is not benefitting from a select group getting better service.
WRONG. See above. Who is contracted to build it is the least important part of it. Who plans it, regulates and ultimately exerts control over it is what matters when it comes to meeting the needs of broader society and not just an elite few.
WRONG. See my above post.
WRONG. When society provides all the benefits i cite above and certain people leverage it to build wealth then taxation and wealth distribution is necessary. They cannot get a free ride and use all those benefits and not pay a portion of the gains. There is a reason the more stable a country is, the stronger its army, the better its infrastructure, the more businesses want to operate there.
WRONG. But cite to WHOM they provide "better service"? Are you talking to only the people who can pay them or the multitudes who cannot?
Cite? Are you referring to closed systems only servicing certain paying clientele or does the broader society also get service at rates they can afford? It is easy to make a profitable Postal Service but just scrapping all unprofitable or lower profit routes but that defeats the point and is NOT a better service. Being profitable at the expense of service is not the goal and is a worse outcome.
No reason to as you have not got one right yet. But if you do, try and get at least one correct.
WRONG.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
you people would shit yourselves without your government contracts guaranteeing your cartels, so stfu with your nonsense.Halliburton is a construction company including things like oil fields.
Halliburton, engineering solutions for global energy needs
Halliburton delivers advanced products and services to meet the evolving needs of the global energy industry, driving innovation, reliability, and performance.www.halliburton.com
you have achieved state capture and you rely on that to enforce your monopolies, so eat shit.
As long as the monies keep flowing.......I know that also..........