ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
Stupider and falser.
See. I can do that too.
I actually stated something. If you think I am wrong say how I am wrong, because what you did instead means absolutely nothing.
Iran is insisting Hormuz will never go back to being International Waters, and Iran will exercise some control over it. Trump May Have to concede.
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Stupider and falser.
See. I can do that too.
I actually stated something. If you think I am wrong say how I am wrong, because what you did instead means absolutely nothing.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Now, now, Creepy's never the dumbest one around, but almost, every time!
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Giving Iran billions to buy weapons. Then many more billions when Biden was president. $16 billion dollars just during Potato.
A "workable deal", retard? Yeah, we give them money and they develop missiles with it.
And that's exactly what they did and we've now had to blow a lot of them up.
Go eat a bag of dicks with your "workable deal" fucktardation that they never complied with.
They didn't let inspectors in. Iran has been developing weapons the entire time.
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The Hormuz Letter
@HormuzLetter
BREAKING: Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei has formally appointed former longtime IRGC commander-in-chief Mohsen Rezaei as the head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council.Rezaei, one of the most hardline figures in the IRGC, is actively preparing a military response to the U.S. Naval Blockade, and has described the Strait of Hormuz as a "more powerful deterrent for Iran than dozens of atomic bombs." He has also warned Iran will turn the Sea of Oman into a "graveyard" for US forces if the naval blockade is not lifted.Rezaei has explicitly stated Iran will not tolerate any unauthorized second shipping corridor through the Strait of Hormuz, adding "even if they bring a warship, we will strike that warship. If they bring military forces, we will strike them," with the IRGC actively preparing the necessary military measures.
@HormuzLetter
BREAKING: Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei has formally appointed former longtime IRGC commander-in-chief Mohsen Rezaei as the head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council.Rezaei, one of the most hardline figures in the IRGC, is actively preparing a military response to the U.S. Naval Blockade, and has described the Strait of Hormuz as a "more powerful deterrent for Iran than dozens of atomic bombs." He has also warned Iran will turn the Sea of Oman into a "graveyard" for US forces if the naval blockade is not lifted.Rezaei has explicitly stated Iran will not tolerate any unauthorized second shipping corridor through the Strait of Hormuz, adding "even if they bring a warship, we will strike that warship. If they bring military forces, we will strike them," with the IRGC actively preparing the necessary military measures.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
America never had any right to steal their money.
The world which hates America more by the day is watching.How long until he gets blown up?
I give it less than a week.
Matt Dillon
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ModernDiogenes
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You know, the swearing doesn't make you sound smater.
This place has got an "X" vibe to it. Not a lot of exchange going on. Just a ton of reposting of material from social media sources.
There is a lot of propaganda and other shit on X.....but it is currently the go to place to learn what the world likes like for those of us who got educated.....can separate the wheat from the chaff.
Hi and GoodBye.
QP!
Verified User
The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the United States and Iran establishes a framework that unlocks an estimated $312 billion or more in direct and indirect financial access, subject to a final 60-day negotiated peace deal. [1, 2, 3, 4]
1. Direct Access: Reconstruction Funds and Frozen AssetsThe $300 Billion Reconstruction Fund
- The Value: At least $300 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: The MOU commits the U.S. and its partners to developing a multi-billion-dollar private reconstruction and economic development plan for Iran. Vice President JD Vance confirmed that this fund will be backed primarily by Gulf states and international private investors (including commitments from firms in South Korea, Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia). [1, 2, 4, 5]
Unfrozen State Assets
- The Value: $6 billion to $12 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: Iran demanded immediate access to $12 billion in frozen assets (primarily held in Qatar) as part of the initial phase. Negotiators have already established channels to utilize an initial $6 billion of these frozen funds to purchase "needed goods" and humanitarian supplies. [1, 2, 3]
2. Indirect Access: Sanctions Relief and Open-Market Oil SalesThe indirect financial impact of the MOU is less about a lump sum of money and more about reopening Iran’s primary revenue streams. [1]
[MOU Signed] ──> [OFAC General License X Issued] ──> [Uncapped Oil Sales Allowed] ──> [Billions in Indirect Revenue Flowing]
- Immediate Oil Monetization: Following the MOU, the U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) issued General License X. This immediately waived sanctions on the production, sale, and delivery of Iranian crude oil and petrochemical products. [1]
- Elimination of the "Shadow Fleet" Discount: Previously, sanctions forced Iran to sell its oil at a massive discount on the black market using illicit "shadow fleets". By temporarily legitimizing their exports on the open global market, the MOU provides Iran with billions of dollars in indirect cash flow from undiscounteed, legal oil sales. [1]
- Potential "All-Sanctions" Termination: The broader framework of the MOU outlines a roadmap to completely lift UN Security Council resolutions and unilateral U.S. primary/secondary sanctions, which would permanently restore Iran's global banking and trade capabilities. [1, 2, 3]
As with the Minsk accords the Empire never had any intention of honoring its word.The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the United States and Iran establishes a framework that unlocks an estimated $312 billion or more in direct and indirect financial access, subject to a final 60-day negotiated peace deal. [1, 2, 3, 4]
The $300 Billion Reconstruction Fund
- The Value: At least $300 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: The MOU commits the U.S. and its partners to developing a multi-billion-dollar private reconstruction and economic development plan for Iran. Vice President JD Vance confirmed that this fund will be backed primarily by Gulf states and international private investors (including commitments from firms in South Korea, Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia). [1, 2, 4, 5]
Unfrozen State Assets
- The Value: $6 billion to $12 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: Iran demanded immediate access to $12 billion in frozen assets (primarily held in Qatar) as part of the initial phase. Negotiators have already established channels to utilize an initial $6 billion of these frozen funds to purchase "needed goods" and humanitarian supplies. [1, 2, 3]
The indirect financial impact of the MOU is less about a lump sum of money and more about reopening Iran’s primary revenue streams. [1]
[MOU Signed] ──> [OFAC General License X Issued] ──> [Uncapped Oil Sales Allowed] ──> [Billions in Indirect Revenue Flowing]
- Immediate Oil Monetization: Following the MOU, the U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) issued General License X. This immediately waived sanctions on the production, sale, and delivery of Iranian crude oil and petrochemical products. [1]
- Elimination of the "Shadow Fleet" Discount: Previously, sanctions forced Iran to sell its oil at a massive discount on the black market using illicit "shadow fleets". By temporarily legitimizing their exports on the open global market, the MOU provides Iran with billions of dollars in indirect cash flow from undiscounteed, legal oil sales. [1]
- Potential "All-Sanctions" Termination: The broader framework of the MOU outlines a roadmap to completely lift UN Security Council resolutions and unilateral U.S. primary/secondary sanctions, which would permanently restore Iran's global banking and trade capabilities. [1, 2, 3]
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
Educated to what?
MAGA validated the election of a malignant pathological narcissist (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/trump-nyt-ad-george-conway-pac) and over 37,000 mental health workers on the “Duty to Warn” petition.
Trump has a massive public record of fraud. Literally thousands of victims. He’s used a charity and a university to steal. He has multi-million dollar civil case fraud verdicts against him. He was found guilty of 34 criminal counts of fraudulent reporting to state election officials. He has a myriad of women that have alledged sexual misconduct against him. The whole Epstein debacle.
MAGA but thus guy in office rather than deal with everyday corruption from ordinary politicians. They thought this would be better? He’s grifted over $4 BILLION bucks since he retook the Oval.
There is no sign of education going in here with this nonsense. It’s the dumb leading the dumber. We are truly a society in massive decline. I’m scared for us.
I hope we figure this out before we go off the cliff we are heading at.
Cry harder whiny little moron.
You just proved Matt Dillons point QP. Do you democrats actually ever read what you post?The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the United States and Iran establishes a framework that unlocks an estimated $312 billion or more in direct and indirect financial access, subject to a final 60-day negotiated peace deal. [1, 2, 3, 4]
The $300 Billion Reconstruction Fund
- The Value: At least $300 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: The MOU commits the U.S. and its partners to developing a multi-billion-dollar private reconstruction and economic development plan for Iran. Vice President JD Vance confirmed that this fund will be backed primarily by Gulf states and international private investors (including commitments from firms in South Korea, Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia). [1, 2, 4, 5]
Unfrozen State Assets
- The Value: $6 billion to $12 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: Iran demanded immediate access to $12 billion in frozen assets (primarily held in Qatar) as part of the initial phase. Negotiators have already established channels to utilize an initial $6 billion of these frozen funds to purchase "needed goods" and humanitarian supplies. [1, 2, 3]
The indirect financial impact of the MOU is less about a lump sum of money and more about reopening Iran’s primary revenue streams. [1]
[MOU Signed] ──> [OFAC General License X Issued] ──> [Uncapped Oil Sales Allowed] ──> [Billions in Indirect Revenue Flowing]
- Immediate Oil Monetization: Following the MOU, the U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) issued General License X. This immediately waived sanctions on the production, sale, and delivery of Iranian crude oil and petrochemical products. [1]
- Elimination of the "Shadow Fleet" Discount: Previously, sanctions forced Iran to sell its oil at a massive discount on the black market using illicit "shadow fleets". By temporarily legitimizing their exports on the open global market, the MOU provides Iran with billions of dollars in indirect cash flow from undiscounteed, legal oil sales. [1]
- Potential "All-Sanctions" Termination: The broader framework of the MOU outlines a roadmap to completely lift UN Security Council resolutions and unilateral U.S. primary/secondary sanctions, which would permanently restore Iran's global banking and trade capabilities. [1, 2, 3]
I doubt it. If they ever read beyond a headline and a quick check to make sure a source agrees with them I'd consider it a miracle.
QP!
Verified User
If Matt Dillons post was the Trump MOU was far worse, then yes, i agree with you, I proved it.
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
Real classy.
You realize none if that is a counter argument to anything I’ve stated. Meaning, perhaps, you don’t have one?
Yiu realize I don’t find that particularly off putting. It’s weak and without substance. Not exactly scary.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
That thing is null and void now, retard. Catch up!The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by the United States and Iran establishes a framework that unlocks an estimated $312 billion or more in direct and indirect financial access, subject to a final 60-day negotiated peace deal. [1, 2, 3, 4]
The $300 Billion Reconstruction Fund
- The Value: At least $300 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: The MOU commits the U.S. and its partners to developing a multi-billion-dollar private reconstruction and economic development plan for Iran. Vice President JD Vance confirmed that this fund will be backed primarily by Gulf states and international private investors (including commitments from firms in South Korea, Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia). [1, 2, 4, 5]
Unfrozen State Assets
- The Value: $6 billion to $12 billion USD.
- The Mechanism: Iran demanded immediate access to $12 billion in frozen assets (primarily held in Qatar) as part of the initial phase. Negotiators have already established channels to utilize an initial $6 billion of these frozen funds to purchase "needed goods" and humanitarian supplies. [1, 2, 3]
The indirect financial impact of the MOU is less about a lump sum of money and more about reopening Iran’s primary revenue streams. [1]
[MOU Signed] ──> [OFAC General License X Issued] ──> [Uncapped Oil Sales Allowed] ──> [Billions in Indirect Revenue Flowing]
- Immediate Oil Monetization: Following the MOU, the U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) issued General License X. This immediately waived sanctions on the production, sale, and delivery of Iranian crude oil and petrochemical products. [1]
- Elimination of the "Shadow Fleet" Discount: Previously, sanctions forced Iran to sell its oil at a massive discount on the black market using illicit "shadow fleets". By temporarily legitimizing their exports on the open global market, the MOU provides Iran with billions of dollars in indirect cash flow from undiscounteed, legal oil sales. [1]
- Potential "All-Sanctions" Termination: The broader framework of the MOU outlines a roadmap to completely lift UN Security Council resolutions and unilateral U.S. primary/secondary sanctions, which would permanently restore Iran's global banking and trade capabilities. [1, 2, 3]