Losing 18 soldiers is not that bad…

[T. A. Gardner]

Yes just stay forever in a forever war or stay in Afghan/Iraq/Iran until it they are stable. FLOL.

Terry and his call for the US to get locked in more forever wars. So pathetic and yet predictable.

No. Biden getting America out when Trump failed twice was a good thing.

We've "stay(ed) forever" in Germany and Japan...

 

[Lionfish]

Death

Then I feel extra bad for you.

 

[Lionfish]

Trump having american soldiers killed for no reason was not necessary.

QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
Neither of us know the reason the US went in.

Soldiers lives being wasted unnecessarily is worse that equipment loss.

You obviously never served.

And ya, you can be ok with the Afghan and Vietnam war saying 'THEY DID NOT LAST FOREVER AND THUS WERE OK" but none of us agree with you.

Alt lefties only agree with themselves.

 

[QP!]

Biden was under no obligation to continue with what Trump did. Biden ended, often immediately, many other things Trump started and were in progress, so he could have done that here too. Instead, he shortened Trump's timetable, and forced a rushed and chaotic withdrawal on the military.

Your position is garbage.


What? Biden presided over a rout, a singular event in US military history, so in that sense, yes he did what no prior POTUS had done, hand a foreign enemy a US defeat that looked horrific.

Biden accelerated what Trump did, and you have no proof that if Trump had carried out his negotiated plan it would have turned out the same way.

Garbage by you.

The US lost 122 people on average a year for that war.

But if you look at only the last 5 years where it was more maintenance mode it was 14 a year average dying.

Biden ended the war and 13 died but he ended the constant death that would follow year over year.

So if as you say, Biden had just let it continue to run and it was still running now, there would be far MORE deaths.

had Biden tossed the Trump deal and the Taliban attacked thinking the US was never going to honor any deal and leave and they wanted to up the cost to convince them YOU TERRY would be the first one saying how incompetent Biden was and that Trump gift wrapped him a deal to leave the Taliban had agreed to and all he had to do was follow it.

You know it and we all know it.

 

[QP!]

We've "stay(ed) forever" in Germany and Japan...

Right the Neocon argument for why Afghanistan did not ever have to be ended because in places we have peaceful alliances and are not embattled can go on forever therefore Biden could have left Afghanistan as a forever war.

At least you NeoCons all use the same talking points as i have seen this one a lot used as to why Biden should have tore up Trumps deal and never had America leave.

 

[QP!]

QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
Neither of us know the reason the US went in.
...

^^ The problem LyingFish rightly identifies but is too stupid to understand WHY that is such a problem for the American people.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Garbage by you.

The US lost 122 people on average a year for that war.

So? Wars have casualties. We lost 57,000 in Vietnam.

Chicago has between 500 and 800 murders a year, where' s your outrage about that?

But if you look at only the last 5 years where it was more maintenance mode it was 14 a year average dying.

Safer for soldiers to be there than in many Democrat run cities in the US...

Biden ended the war and 13 died but he ended the constant death that would follow year over year.

Biden presided over a rout.

So if as you say, Biden had just let it continue to run and it was still running now, there would be far MORE deaths.

So? Death in war is inevitable.

had Biden tossed the Trump deal and the Taliban attacked thinking the US was never going to honor any deal and leave and they wanted to up the cost to convince them YOU TERRY would be the first one saying how incompetent Biden was and that Trump gift wrapped him a deal to leave the Taliban had agreed to and all he had to do was follow it.

You know it and we all know it.

Again, so? The Taliban have proven since the Biden debacle, to not be honoring any of the terms of the agreement they made with Trump that Biden carried out.

 

[QP!]

So? Wars have casualties. We lost 57,000 in Vietnam.
...

so then why do you and other magats point to "Biden having 13 deaths' during the withdrawal, if that is no big deal to you and on average the US was having 14 deaths a year there and that would be continuing until today?

Clearly you do not give a shit about service people deaths other than as a tool to criticize Biden for something you are actually fine with.

 

[Jarod]

Biden was under no obligation to continue with what Trump did. Biden ended, often immediately, many other things Trump started and were in progress, so he could have done that here too. Instead, he shortened Trump's timetable, and forced a rushed and chaotic withdrawal on the military.

Your position is garbage.


What? Biden presided over a rout, a singular event in US military history, so in that sense, yes he did what no prior POTUS had done, hand a foreign enemy a US defeat that looked horrific.

Biden accelerated what Trump did, and you have no proof that if Trump had carried out his negotiated plan it would have turned out the same way.

Biden ended the war, and less less Americans than did Trump.

 

[QP!]

Biden ended the war, and less less Americans than did Trump.

Terry just admitted he does not give a shit that the US was losing on average 122 people a year in that Afghan war as "wars have casualties".

So this is all just theater for him and a way to blame Biden for something he expected to happen anyway and at worse levels per year than happened under Biden.

So as i always say 'magats ar always hypocritical on any thing and everything they pretend to believe and care about and it is all just partisan ammo porn to them'.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

so then why do you and other magats point to "Biden having 13 deaths' during the withdrawal, if that is no big deal to you and on average the US was having 14 deaths a year there and that would be continuing until today?

Because, much like the deaths of Custer's men at Little Big Horn, they caused by the sheer stupidity of the leadership.

 

[Noking]

Because, much like the deaths of Custer's men at Little Big Horn, they caused by the sheer stupidity of the leadership.

Are you for real?????

 

[QP!]

Because, much like the deaths of Custer's men at Little Big Horn, they caused by the sheer stupidity of the leadership.

So??? "...So? Wars have casualties. We lost 57,000 in Vietnam...."

And Trump is losing soldiers in a completely unnecessary war RIGHT NOW and you admitted you do not care about such deaths.

 

[QP!]

Are you for real?????

Terry's point is he does not give a fuck about the 57,000 lost in Vietnam. They are a nothing burger.. He does not give a fuck about the deaths happening now in Trumps stupid war. They are a nothing burger being lost in a war that should never have been started and has no foreseeable end..

But he does care about ones lost under Biden. Only those ones matter as Biden ended a forever war where Trump and others failed and if you look up thread Terry would be fine if that Afghan war was still going now losing more per year than happened in Biden pull out year.

 

[Noking]

Terry's point is he does not give a fuck about the 57,000 lost in Vietnam. They are a nothing burger.. He does not give a fuck about the deaths happening now in Trumps stupid war. They are a nothing burger being lost in a war that should never have been started and has no foreseeable end..

But he does care about ones lost under Biden. Only those ones matter as Biden ended a forever war where Trump and others failed and if you look up thread Terry would be find if that Afghan war was still going now losing more per year than happened in Biden pull out year.

I have gotten to know TAG over the years, and I have found him to be not very intelligent about the way he replies.

 

[QP!]

I have gotten to know TAG over the years, and I have found him to be not very intelligent about the way he replies.

He is as purely partisan as it gets. Trump could lose 1M american lives tomorrow and Terry would not give a fuck nor blame him but if Biden loses 1 life Terry will complain about that until the end of time. It is why no one can take him as credible. His brain is broken with TDS.

 

[Sailor]

Terry's point is he does not give a fuck about the 57,000 lost in Vietnam. They are a nothing burger.. He does not give a fuck about the deaths happening now in Trumps stupid war. They are a nothing burger being lost in a war that should never have been started and has no foreseeable end..

But he does care about ones lost under Biden. Only those ones matter as Biden ended a forever war where Trump and others failed and if you look up thread Terry would be fine if that Afghan war was still going now losing more per year than happened in Biden pull out year.

He said no such a thing. Learn to read and comprehend Zippy.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Terry's point is he does not give a fuck about the 57,000 lost in Vietnam. They are a nothing burger.. He does not give a fuck about the deaths happening now in Trumps stupid war. They are a nothing burger being lost in a war that should never have been started and has no foreseeable end..

But he does care about ones lost under Biden. Only those ones matter as Biden ended a forever war where Trump and others failed and if you look up thread Terry would be fine if that Afghan war was still going now losing more per year than happened in Biden pull out year.

Vietnam became what it was on a lie. LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us into a ground war in Vietnam. Eisenhower and Kennedy avoided a ground war and were only willing to send advisors and weapons.

That was another disaster brought on by an idiot President, so Biden isn't alone. There were the "Banana Wars" of the 30's too.

 

[QP!]

Vietnam became what it was on a lie. LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us into a ground war in Vietnam. Eisenhower and Kennedy avoided a ground war and were only willing to send advisors and weapons.

That was another disaster brought on by an idiot President, so Biden isn't alone. There were the "Banana Wars" of the 30's too.

And...

"...So? Wars have casualties. We lost 57,000 in Vietnam...."

So why should we give a shit about how many died during the Adghan withdrawal under Biden if you say you could not give a fuck if Biden did not withdraw the US and over 200 a day on average were still dying there? When you say you could not give a fuck how many die in Trumps needless Banana war?

If only partisan reasons matter and Trump can have his Iran, and Bush his Iraq, and Trump can start 10 more wars and you will say "So, wars have causalities" as you laugh off the deaths for partisan reasons why should anyone take you seriously?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And...

"...So? Wars have casualties. We lost 57,000 in Vietnam...."

So why should we give a shit about how many died during the Adghan withdrawal under Biden if you say you could not give a fuck if Biden did not withdraw the US and over 200 a day on average were still dying there? When you say you could not give a fuck how many die in Trumps needless Banana war?

Which part of the difference between combat with a purpose, and a rout don't you get? Trump's current war with Iran is not a "Banana war." Venezuela, might be one. But the originals in the 30's were corporations getting the US government to do their dirty work in countries like Nicaragua so they could export bananas to the US.