Moral relativism

Cypress said:
Sources embedded as hyperlinks in the AI summary.

The fact that some of Socrates' most prominent students were seen as Spartan collaborators, and many thought Socrates was therefore guilty by association, is a well known historical fact.

The Republic does not portray Socrates as a fan of democracy. Athenian citizens also perceived Socrates as hostile to democracy.
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"All our information about him [Socrates] is second-hand and most of it vigorously disputed, but his trial and death at the hands of the Athenian democracy is nevertheless the founding myth of the academic discipline of philosophy


The SEP is the most respected source for professional philosophers.
 
Hume said:
No record of the trial exists beyond Plato.
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Xenophon wrote about Socrates' trial and other details of his life.

The fact that some of Socrates' students served as collaborators with the Spartan enemies is undisputed historical fact.

I think almost any reputable historian of ancient Greece would confirm that Socrates really got himself into trouble by being perceived as hostile to democracy and having students who collaborated with the enemy. The fact that he annoyed powerful people wasn't good, but did not merit capital punishment
 
Cypress said:
It was like the Trump Justice Department: just throw out a variety changes and see what sticks.

Socrates annoyed powerful people, and gave young students funny ideas about questioning authority.

But that's not enough to get him killed.

The fact that Socrates was perceived to be an enemy of democracy and was thought to be affiliated with Spartan collaborators were the Issues that really animated people against him.
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And if demoncraps could get away with giving trump hemlock they sure as shit would do it.
 
Cypress said:
Yes, Socrates was widely viewed by the public and his accusers as a Spartan collaborator and a threat to Athenian democracy.
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Nothing to do with Sparta, Cyborg.
Cypress said:
While he was officially prosecuted in 399 BC for "impiety" and "corrupting the youth," modern and ancient historians agree that his trial was deeply political, fueled by his close associations with notorious traitors and pro-Spartan oligarchs. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
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Nothing to do with Sparta, Cyborg.
 
Cypress said:
Sources embedded as hyperlinks in the AI summary.

The fact that some of Socrates' most prominent students were seen as Spartan collaborators, and many thought Socrates was therefore guilty by association, is a well known historical fact.

The Republic does not portray Socrates as a fan of democracy. Athenian citizens also perceived Socrates as hostile to democracy.
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Go learn what 'fact' is, Cyborg. Buzzword fallacy.
Sparta has nothing to do with it.
Athens was not a republic.
 
Cypress said:
I'm just telling you what the conventional wisdom of scholarship is. Socrates was portrayed by Plato as hostile to democracy, moreover it is established fact that some of Socrates' most important students collaborated with Sparta, or served in the tyranny that Sparta installed in Athens.

Impeity is not what got Socrates killed. When democracy was reestablished in Athens, citizens remembered that Socrates' students served as Spartan collaborators and that Socrates himself seemed hostile to democracy. That is was ultimately led to his demise.

I think the charges were overblown, and Socrates can't be blamed that his students collaborated with the Spartan enemies.
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Sparta has nothing to do with Socrates, Cyborg.
Impeity and treason is what got Socrates condemned.
Hemlock is what got Socrates killed.
 
Hume said:
"All our information about him [Socrates] is second-hand and most of it vigorously disputed, but his trial and death at the hands of the Athenian democracy is nevertheless the founding myth of the academic discipline of philosophy


The SEP is the most respected source for professional philosophers.
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An execution is not the 'founding of philosophy', Hugo. Philosophy existed long before Socrates.
 
Hume said:
Just you. You are the one with hatred. And you constantly tell me that.
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LMAFO Your're the one that hoped i be violently murdered but you're calling me hateful? Thats like a bank robber whining that they got their pocket picked. Your stupidity is boundless isnt it?
 
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