36 days in

[Into the Night]

Not it's not.

What's lunacy is thinking the 2020 election was stolen.

Still denying all that evidence, eh? You can't wish it away dude.

 

[Phantasmal]

Polls lol.

Regardless, $15/hour minimum wage will lead to workers working fewer hours; even more small businesses lost, like we can stand that; and an increase in automation.

Like so many progressive ideas it looks good on paper, but yeah.

Automation will happen anyway, regardless of the wage, but I won’t support it. It’s why I don’t use self serve registers.

 

[Into the Night]

re: Keystone pipeline

There’s also the hard facts

Fake News is not a fact. Learn what 'fact' means. It does not mean Universal Truth or 'proof'. Buzzword fallacy.

]“Only about 1,000 of these jobs are currently filled.

Random numbers are not data. Quoting random numbers as data is a fallacy.

Also most of these jobs were temporary positions slated to last 4 to 8 months while a pipeline would have been constructed.

Random numbers are not data, dude. Argument from randU fallacies.

Those jobs would have been primarily in Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas.

Nope. They are along the entire pipeline.

Finally, a State Department report on the Keystone Pipeline found the project would only create 50 permanent long lasting jobs some of which would be in Canada, not the United States.
....deleted Holy Link to Fake News...

Argument from randU fallacy. False authority fallacy.

 

[Stone]

Nah. What will happen is that more workers will simply be thrown out of work.

That's what price controls do. They always cause shortages. In this case, shortages of available jobs (which is already acutely low due to businesses being shut down due to Democrats shutting down 'non-essential' businesses, and due to Democrats funding and supporting Antifa and BLM, the defunding of police, and increased crime).

Bread will be more expensive as well, since the government is printing money much faster than wealth being created, causing massive inflation.

If you are correct that is an even worse scenario than the one I laid out in my post. I had everybody staying in neutral at least . You have us going in reverse. Hope not but you are probably right...

 

[Into the Night]

So you whine that there are too many unskilled workers, but then you oppose free public colleges which would turn them into skilled workers.

So you're just jerking off on the board.

Free public colleges are not free. Someone has to pay for them. That's higher taxes, dude.
They won't magickally create skilled workers either.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah, so?

Let's do a little math...

Worker works 40 hours a week for $7.25/hr = $290/week

Same worker works 29 hours a week for $15/hr = $435/week

PLUS, the employer can now create ANOTHER JOB to fill the remaining 11 hours of work you cut from the worker.

And those 11 hours @ $15/hr = $165/week, more than half the original wage while working 1/4 as many hours.

Using math to prove you're a fucking idiot.

No. Same worker is now UNEMPLOYED. He makes ZERO dollars per hour.

 

[cordeela]

may I present the honourable Sleepy Joe the child stroker who does not know what day it is. Who supports the BLM and all their violent crimes - we give you our great leader and we are so proud of him. ................... PS: We landed a man on the Moon ya know??

 

[Into the Night]

Lies, lies, lies.

Yes. You make a lot of them.

Raising the MW helps small businesses because the people who work at those businesses will have more money to spend in the business.

And just where does the business get the money to pay the higher wages??

Paying your workers enough for them to afford the product they make is good economics and perpetuates consumer demand.

You can't create consumer demand by paying higher wages.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

 

[Into the Night]

If you want higher energy prices and fewer jobs, then KXL is the pipeline for you!

The keystone pipeline does not increase the cost of energy. It also provided many jobs, until Biden killed it.

 

[Into the Night]

Automation will happen anyway, regardless of the wage, but I won’t support it. It’s why I don’t use self serve registers.

So you are taking your business elsewhere? You wish for businesses that use self serve registers to go out of business and put MORE people out of work???? Gotit.

 

[Into the Night]

If you are correct that is an even worse scenario than the one I laid out in my post. I had everybody staying in neutral at least . You have us going in reverse. Hope not but you are probably right...

Look at history at every time prices controls have been attempted:

The 'gas crisis' of the mid 70's is a direct result of price controls imposed by Pres. Carter. Gas stations were being required to sell gasoline for less than what they paid for it. So they sat on it (duh). The result was a shortage of gasoline and long lines.

Minimum wage laws are price controls. Each time they've been set at levels higher than market prices, employers have simply laid off people and done with less, usually resorting to automation to keep production up. In other words, a shortage of unskilled labor jobs. This of course creates a glut in unskilled workers, further depressing market prices (wages) that would naturally occur. So...more people on various welfare programs. Programs that are paid for by taking wealth from productive people and giving it to unproductive people (socialism), and the government taking a nice fat cut off the top in the process.

Price controls on apartment rentals, causing landlords to convert the property to non-apartment use, causing a shortage of apartments.

Price controls on college tuition, making them even more expensive then ever before and paid for by taxpayers, and producing graduates with useless degrees. A shortage of education.

Price controls on medical insurance (ObamaCare), causing massive costs in government and a shortage of useful policies, resulting in much higher prices for those policies.

Price controls on used cars (Obama's Cash for Clunkers program), resulting in massive costs in government and a shortage of viable used cars and parts for them.

Price controls on wind generators and solar power panels through government subsidies, and higher prices imposed on coal, oil, and natural gas products resulting in insufficient energy resources (such as in the SOTC), fraud, and high costs of energy. In other words, an energy shortage.

Price controls on the cost of money itself (The Federal Reserve) resulting in low returns on savings (negative, in most cases due to inflation also caused by the Federal Reserve and Congress), loss in the value of the dollar, a distorted loan market where businesses borrow what turns out to be insufficient funds to complete a project, due to inflation, or the the inability to access funds, even when people are saving. in other words, a loan shortage or a cash shortage, or inflation (a wealth shortage).

In 1910, the price of an ounce of gold was $20. Today it is approx. $1730 per ounce. The price of other commodities has gone up correspondingly as well. Remember when a candy bar cost only ten cents and gas was only 0.25/gallon?


We ARE going backwards.

 

[Legion]

Oops

 

[Grokmaster]

Biden has...

-Pissed off his union donors by killing Keystone

-pissed off soccer moms with the transgender madness [their daughter’s sports scholarship might go to a biological dude]

-failed to deliver on the $2000 relief promise

-bombed Syria

-promised to send free face diapers to everyone as part of his Covid response
______

That’s what you call getting off to a blazing crawl. Are there any Biden supporters who are with their vote happy so far?

HAS THRILLED RED CHINA, RUSSIA, IRAN WITH HIS "FUCK AMERICA FIRST" PLATFORM....

 

[gfm7175]

Rejoined Paris Accord.
Finally, a little sanity.

... and what is THAT accomplishing?

 

[gfm7175]

Republicans have returned to their former glory of being 'The Party of No'.

... and what were the Democrats throughout Trump's tenure? The Party of "HELL YES!!"?????

 

[Jack]

... and what is THAT accomplishing?

It's an acknowledgement that 'Climate Change' is real, rather than calling it a 'Chinese Hoax', which just means you ignore it ... and maybe it will go away.

 

[evince]

... and what were the Democrats throughout Trump's tenure? The Party of "HELL YES!!"?????

Dear fucking idiot


The grim reaper was the ultimate NO man


Under trump he refused to take up anything the house did


He crippled our government idiot


Fuck you very much

 

[Jack]

Dear fucking idiot


The grim reaper was the ultimate NO man


Under trump he refused to take up anything the house did


He crippled our government idiot


Fuck you very much

Yeah. Don't forget Moscow Mitch. Good Call, Evince.

 

[gfm7175]

To be fair, retirees are known to take jobs in that wage category just to get out of the wife’s hair lol.

But they aren’t trying to support a family on it.

I would assume that retirees would also wish to not earn too much money, as I assume that would harm their social security benefits.

 

[Grokmaster]

It's an acknowledgement that 'Climate Change' is real, rather than calling it a 'Chinese Hoax', which just means you ignore it ... and maybe it will go away.

NO, IT'S "ACCOMPLISHING" NEGATIVE PRESSURE ON OUR ECONOMY, AND A FREE PASS FOR THE WORLD'S WORST POLLUTERS, CHINA AND INDIA.


TYPICAL "FUCK AMERICANS FIRST" MORON-O-CRAT IDIOCY.