Matt Dillon
Retardium User
The OP is non-content.
Eat a bag of dicks, you worthless oxygen thief.
Page me when you come up with anything relevant, douchebag.
You damn sure did not here, bitch.
A little education for our Maga/Alt-Right friends.
- Thread starter Taichiliberal
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Eat a bag of dicks, you worthless oxygen thief.
Page me when you come up with anything relevant, douchebag.
You damn sure did not here, bitch.
cawacko
Well-known member
If you've ever been to the East Bay you may be familiar with College Ave. It starts in an upscale neighborhood in Oakland and runs through Berkeley and next to the Cal campus.
There's a proposal for two senior living towers on the street that would provide much needed housing (this would be in Oakland).
Needless to say the NIMBYs are out in full force fighting against this one. This column is from our local progressive political writer and I was pretty surprised he said this:
The burgeoning battle over a proposal to build 415 units on the site of a popular Trader Joe’s in Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood is a cautionary tale about what Gov. Gavin Newsom has called California’s “original sin” — its failure for decades to build enough housing, which has created a crippling affordability crisis.
Rockridge, the North Oakland neighborhood where the average home price is $1.8 million, was long a poster child for NIMBYism. Even though 89% of Wicks’ district voted for Kamala Harris in 2024, and signs in front of many homes virtue-signal that “In this house, we believe in science” and “Black Lives Matter,” there is almost no affordable housing, and neighbors have long swatted away anything that violates the height limits along its College Avenue commercial corridor.
But now, the NIMBY chickens have come home to roost. And in the case of Rockridge, it will likely have to choke down two massive towers that are out of scale with the three- and four-story buildings that line College Avenue. Perhaps more important to many residents: They could lose their beloved Trader Joe’s.
She’s pushed to build more housing across California. Now there’s a NIMBY fight in her backyard
The plan to build 415 units in Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood is a lesson in what residents might have to sacrifice as a result of years of blocking housing.
www.sfchronicle.com
On the surface these aren't the kind of people you would think of as being racist. But racism can come in many, often subtle, forms. How much would you attribute this battle to racism?
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
progressives are actually very racist.If you've ever been to the East Bay you may be familiar with College Ave. It starts in an upscale neighborhood in Oakland and runs through Berkeley and next to the Cal campus.
There's a proposal for two senior living towers on the street that would provide much needed housing (this would be in Oakland).
Needless to say the NIMBYs are out in full force fighting against this one. This column is from our local progressive political writer and I was pretty surprised he said this:
The burgeoning battle over a proposal to build 415 units on the site of a popular Trader Joe’s in Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood is a cautionary tale about what Gov. Gavin Newsom has called California’s “original sin” — its failure for decades to build enough housing, which has created a crippling affordability crisis.
Rockridge, the North Oakland neighborhood where the average home price is $1.8 million, was long a poster child for NIMBYism. Even though 89% of Wicks’ district voted for Kamala Harris in 2024, and signs in front of many homes virtue-signal that “In this house, we believe in science” and “Black Lives Matter,” there is almost no affordable housing, and neighbors have long swatted away anything that violates the height limits along its College Avenue commercial corridor.
But now, the NIMBY chickens have come home to roost. And in the case of Rockridge, it will likely have to choke down two massive towers that are out of scale with the three- and four-story buildings that line College Avenue. Perhaps more important to many residents: They could lose their beloved Trader Joe’s.
She’s pushed to build more housing across California. Now there’s a NIMBY fight in her backyard
The plan to build 415 units in Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood is a lesson in what residents might have to sacrifice as a result of years of blocking housing.
On the surface these aren't the kind of people you would think of as being racist. But racism can come in many, often subtle, forms. How much would you attribute this battle to racism?
they use black people as a project to feel good about themselves.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Translation: another maga/alt-right troll lashing out like a child because he can't logically or factually defend his stance. Once I reduce these cretins to this level I let them cool of in the ignore bin for a month or so. He’s done.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Which has NOTHING to do with point I made. To emphasize just in the last year or so:If you've ever been to the East Bay you may be familiar with College Ave. It starts in an upscale neighborhood in Oakland and runs through Berkeley and next to the Cal campus.
There's a proposal for two senior living towers on the street that would provide much needed housing (this would be in Oakland).
Needless to say the NIMBYs are out in full force fighting against this one. This column is from our local progressive political writer and I was pretty surprised he said this:
The burgeoning battle over a proposal to build 415 units on the site of a popular Trader Joe’s in Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood is a cautionary tale about what Gov. Gavin Newsom has called California’s “original sin” — its failure for decades to build enough housing, which has created a crippling affordability crisis.
Rockridge, the North Oakland neighborhood where the average home price is $1.8 million, was long a poster child for NIMBYism. Even though 89% of Wicks’ district voted for Kamala Harris in 2024, and signs in front of many homes virtue-signal that “In this house, we believe in science” and “Black Lives Matter,” there is almost no affordable housing, and neighbors have long swatted away anything that violates the height limits along its College Avenue commercial corridor.
But now, the NIMBY chickens have come home to roost. And in the case of Rockridge, it will likely have to choke down two massive towers that are out of scale with the three- and four-story buildings that line College Avenue. Perhaps more important to many residents: They could lose their beloved Trader Joe’s.
She’s pushed to build more housing across California. Now there’s a NIMBY fight in her backyard
The plan to build 415 units in Oakland’s Rockridge neighborhood is a lesson in what residents might have to sacrifice as a result of years of blocking housing.
On the surface these aren't the kind of people you would think of as being racist. But racism can come in many, often subtle, forms. How much would you attribute this battle to racism?
cawacko
Well-known member
Maybe we're having different discussions then. I thought we were talking about zoning and NIMBYism.
The articles you are linking to are about lending. Still real estate related of course but not the same as zoning or NIMBYism.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
You're splitting a hair: zoning and Nimby-ism are directly linked to bank loans, as the articles shows ... and racism played a HEAVY role in that.
I'm not denying caste/class and good old fashioned snobbery & selfishness haven't been players, but a black folk got their civil rights, the aforementioned policies went into over drive. Matters of history, matters of fact.
cawacko
Well-known member
I still think we're talking past each other here. As mentioned, I can show you my book shelf which has multiple books on the history of zoning and all that it entails. So I'm well aware of the history.
We were having a discussion (or so I thought) on present day NIMBYIsm and you broke down what you felt were two different kinds. You brought up the racism involved in it. Thus my post about the Oakland project on College Ave. I didn't post that as some gotcha or trying to fight. I posted it asking your opinion about how much racism you felt is involved in the folks opposing a project like that.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Not so much talking past each other as you seem to be trying to make an equivalency where there really is none. .. it's more of an "apropos" situation. Then again, your examples are NOT the equivalent of say Levittown, NY which was highlighted in the video . It is what it is.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Interesting. What's your proof of such?
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
progressives constantly doing that.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
OP's cognitive function is quite low.
I've seen better debaters in 8th grade.
The OP video is 2 progressafags making things up as they go along.
Watching that video is the equivalent of reading McSweeney's.
After 3 falsehoods, and 1 "African American", that was enough for me. Several minutes in that I'll never get back.
I know some African Americans, they're white and speak Dutch.
I know some black Americans, too, their families have been here for centuries and there ain't no Africa about it.
They're American as it gets.
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
I asked for proof, not repetition of your opinion.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
progressives constantly doing it is the proof.
cawacko
Well-known member
Tai Chi, I'm not making any equivalency. I suppose I need to repeat this every post, if I weren't so technology illiterate I would take a picture of my bookshelf and show you all my books on real estate, zoning and exclusion. I have in no way denied the history of it.
I get it dude, this is JPP. In the real world people tell you to be a good listener and to ask questions, that's how you learn. We operate differently here. We come here to 'fight', not actually engage with each other.
So I suppose the fact I'm actually asking your opinion, comes across strange on here. But asking you about the College Ave project, which in reality is a proxy for any development across the country, is not making any moral equivalency or denying history.
You stated present day NIMBYism has its roots in racism. I'm asking your opinion how much you think racism is involved in those opposing this project.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Post #100 where it all started, so your repetition won't change our exchange. You insist upon inserting an OPINION of cases that is just a parallel of what I documented ... but it us NOT the same, as history and current legal cases show. Matter of history, matter of fact. I can't make that any clearer. So unless you've got something new to add aside from variations of the previous exchanges. I'd say we're done here and will let you have the last word. See you on some other thread.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
So you have no proof, just repetitive opinion. Unless you provide valid documentation to support your claims, I won' waste time responding to you here.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
good.
go fuck yourself.
everybody knows the truth.
everybody knows you're a liar.
cawacko
Well-known member
If I were king for a day I would eliminate single family zoning. That would allow for ADU's, duplexes, triplexes and even small multi-family developments in basically all neighborhoods.
We're not going to end up in situations where people in section 8 housing are living next to $20m homes, but that is how neighborhoods can become more inclusive economically and can increase opportunity for more people.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
False statement. A simple cursory review of your posts will show that they are all nothing but baseless and erroneous declarations like the one above. You simply declare things without making any effort to support your assertions, precisely because you are incorrect on every single one.
A full review of your posts will reveal that you have never posted anything that is correct, or anything that is honest.
How stupid are you to have never learned statistical math, and yet to pretend to be an authority?
You worship Global Warming, don't you? Ask me how I know.
All you've done is demonstrate that no one should listen to you.
Have you learned what "Cause > Effect" is yet? No? OK.