A unarmed college student was fatally shot by a Pennsylvania police officer

[Walt]

was he trying to break into the house when shot?

Castle doctrine includes trespassing, and he was trespassing when shot. The reason the prosecutor is trying to convince everyone that Pysher was absolutely not a threat to the people inside the house is that is the standard of proof the prosecutor needs to shake castle doctrine.

Thugs have a ripple effect on decent society.

What would you call a 22 year old man smashing a back window in the middle of the night threatening to kill people in a house?

Yet another reason to round them up and get rid of them once and for all.

So you round up innocent Blacks and "get rid of them", but leave white thugs to attack people?

 

[zymurgy]

From the moment this became news, I chose to wait for the facts. No outrage, no appeal to emotion, no pretending I knew what happened before the evidence was available.

And even now, I’m willing to question both people involved.

Unlike so many people on the left, I’m not going to turn this kid into a martyr. He was drunk. He made some poor decisions, and those decisions helped create a dangerous situation.

But I’m not going to go overboard on the cop either. Based on what we know now, it looks like a bad shooting, and he probably didn’t have the judgment or temperament necessary for that job.

At the same time, far too many people discussing police shootings have absolutely no appreciation for the fear, uncertainty, and very real risk officers operate under.

You can acknowledge all of those things at once. That’s the difference between evaluating the facts and simply picking a side.

in conclusion - racist shit stains like @Walt can go fuck themselves

 

[zymurgy]

Castle doctrine includes trespassing, and he was trespassing when shot. The reason the prosecutor is trying to convince everyone that Pysher was absolutely not a threat to the people inside the house is that is the standard of proof the prosecutor needs to shake castle doctrine.

hey AI - your thoughts?


Yes. Given the facts now available, Walt should abandon the castle-doctrine argument as a justification for this police shooting.


Castle doctrine could have been relevant to what the homeowner was legally entitled to do while Pysher was attempting to enter the home. That was a legitimate issue to discuss. Pennsylvania law gives occupants substantial protections regarding defensive force in their dwelling.


But that is not the factual situation in which Farrell fired. According to the evidence described by prosecutors, Pysher was outside, unarmed, hands raised, roughly 17–20 feet from the officer, and no longer attempting to get into the house or threatening its occupants. The prosecution says the bodycam also contradicts Farrell's claim that Pysher charged him.


At that point, the relevant law is principally Pennsylvania's law governing police use of force, §508. Deadly force isn't justified merely because the person committed—or may have committed—a serious offense several minutes earlier. The officer needs the statutory justification for deadly force at the time it is used, such as reasonably believing it necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury, or satisfying the statute's requirements involving a dangerous fleeing/resisting suspect.

 

[Diogenes]

If the deceased was not brown, no reason to frown.