Jerry Mathers
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this is a wild unsubstantiated assertion. not scientific at all.
Archaeology of the New Testament
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Science, philosophy, and logic are about making progress, not necessarily just about getting the ultimate answer. We can use simple logic to decide whether it's reasonable to believe a rational and lawful universe had a rational cause, or if it's more reasonable to believe the cause was irrational and inanimate.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
You can make progress using logic and science without knowing the final answer.
Throwing your hands up in defeat is intellectually lazy, incurious, apathetic.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
the logical thing is recognizing it as an unknown.
pretending guesses are facts is retarded.
You make guesses and decisions everyday of the week, 365 days a year on the basis of incomplete information or even just intuition.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
but I dont' call it sound science.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
what are the ramifications of ingoring the decision you say we must all make without enough information?
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
project bluebeam is fucked anyway.
it's not a go. mason.
it's not a go. mason.
ZenMode
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To clarify, I'm an atheist because the evidence for gods is so poor, not because of my beliefs abouty brain.
You also believe in quarks and electrons. You just believe a sky wizard put them there.
Almost all of the decisions you make in life are not scientific decisions.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
but in science, desicions are scientific.
you're destroying the very concept of science with your bullshit.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
he's no better than an ignorant cargo cultist.
Materialism is a fundamental principle of the atheist belief system - unless you want to explain to me why you believe in a higher reality beyond matter and energy.
I don't believe quarks and electrons explain everything about the human condition, or the universe itself.
I don't believe a wizard, witch, or sorcerer created the universe.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
science is not the path to God.
you do. you just thinking naming it is beneath you, but youre still as idiotic.
ZenMode
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You do. You believe in the stereotypical "wizard" character seen in cartoons and Disney movies. The being that, with a wave of his hand, manipulates matter or makes matter appear out of nowhere.
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Now you are resorting to just being disparaging.
We know that an immaterial reality exists, and we already know that particles can blink into existence from nowhere, as long as they self-annihilate before laws of conservation are violated.
You can insinuate that we already know everything there is to know about the universe, but I don't agree with that.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
I contradicted you; I did not corroborate what you wrote. You haven't proven anything other than that you continue to delude yourself.
You still haven't learned how to write "deterministic."
You haven't shown that the universe has an "underlying basis", whatever that is supposed to mean, to which you readily admit to being unable to specify whatsoever.
Too funny! Your entire argument, as poor as it is, is that the universe is completely arbitrary. Are you telling me that you also don't know what the word "arbitrary" means? I'll take that as a "Yes".
So agnosticism is the most logical position, not atheism, which is fundamentallly a belief system.