California is a failed state. How do we know? They're moving to Arizona in droves.

California is a third world state solely because they force themselves to live in a sweaty hellhole with rolling blackouts.
 
Sailor said:
They do. They are being arrested for it. Feel free to look it up. Of course you will not. Snowflake. The truth hurts. Find a job yet?
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I'm sure a few people here and there have set forest fires in every state. People do stupid things. But if you think that's evidence that all of these California forest fires were all started by Democrats as part of some strange conspiracy, well, that would explain why you're still on disability.
 
StoneByStone said:
I'm sure a few people here and there have set forest fires in every state. People do stupid things. But if you think that's evidence that all of these California forest fires were all started by Democrats as part of some strange conspiracy, well, that would explain why you're still on disability.
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As usual you lack basic reading and comprehension skills. I stated, correctly, that arsonists have been arrested in California for starting some of those fires. I also stated, correctly, that there is a good chance they are Democrats. Both of those truths proving you wrong. Which is nothing new. And I am not on disability as you well know from the last ass kicking you got lying about that. So once again, have you found a job yet? Apparently not. And I bet you are still wondering why.
 
Damocles said:
California is a third world state solely because they force themselves to live in a sweaty hellhole with rolling blackouts.
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You can divide tech companies into three roughly equal groups. There is Silicon Valley, the rest of America, and the rest of the world. In terms of technology, California is a good third of the world.

You can divide entertainment into three roughly equal groups. There is Hollywood...

You get the point. California is crucial to America's economy in multiple ways.
 
Walt said:
You can divide tech companies into three roughly equal groups. There is Silicon Valley, the rest of America, and the rest of the world. In terms of technology, California is a good third of the world.

You can divide entertainment into three roughly equal groups. There is Hollywood...

You get the point. California is crucial to America's economy in multiple ways.
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That's like saying it doesn't matter that China has "reeducation camps" where folks are imprisoned because they make lots of stuff important to Americans.

It doesn't change at all what I said, they choose to live like a third world nation making their own state a sweaty hellhole with "iffy" electricity. Just because some rich folks live there doesn't change the facts any more than it makes China less totalitarian because Apple builds crap there.
 
Sailor said:
As usual you lack basic reading and comprehension skills. I stated, correctly, that arsonists have been arrested in California for starting some of those fires. I also stated, correctly, that there is a good chance they are Democrats. Both of those truths proving you wrong. Which is nothing new. And I am not on disability as you well know from the last ass kicking you got lying about that. So once again, have you found a job yet? Apparently not. And I bet you are still wondering why.
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The local, state, and federal police have all denied your claims. There have been a few arsonists claimed, but they have not been linked to either BLM or Proud Boys. Most fires are accidents, and the arsonists so far caught are mostly accidental arsonists, with none connected to anything political.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/fire-officials-battle-rumors-raging-wildfires-72954708
 
Damocles said:
It doesn't change at all what I said, they choose to live like a third world nation making their own state a sweaty hellhole with "iffy" electricity.
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It is odd how when there is a Democrat in the White House, California has no blackouts. It almost as if Republicans are intentionally crapping on the interstate electrical system.
 
Damocles said:
Just because some rich folks live there doesn't change the facts any more than it makes China less totalitarian because Apple builds crap there.
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China is having trouble moving from assembling things to designing things, because to really innovate with design requires some level of freedom. California has the right mix of freedom, education, and critical mass to be a real home of innovation.
 
Walt said:
It is odd how when there is a Democrat in the White House, California has no blackouts. It almost as if Republicans are intentionally crapping on the interstate electrical system.
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Nonsense, who is in the WH has little to do with their choice to suck at power. Remember when Brown told us they were going to "show us all how it was done"?... Well, apparently it is done with craptacular fail. California chooses to live in a third world intermittent electricity sweaty hellhole and keeps electing the folks that put them there so it has to be by choice.
 
Walt said:
You can divide tech companies into three roughly equal groups. There is Silicon Valley, the rest of America, and the rest of the world. In terms of technology, California is a good third of the world.
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Silicon valley is just a collection of companies that run websites and produce software. The technology to do that is produced somewhere else. In the US that is usually Arizona or Texas.

This is where the chips Silicon valley uses come from (at least in good part):

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That's Intel's Chandler AZ plant. When Intel was looking for a location to build it, they told California's government the equivalent of "Fuck off we're not putting it in your useless state!"

You can divide entertainment into three roughly equal groups. There is Hollywood...
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Not any more. Hollyweird is leaving for greener pastures. Their California studios are becoming little more than overpriced theme parks.

https://variety.com/2014/film/news/...-shooting-elsewhere-to-save-money-1201125523/

Why? Because the state of California has made it prohibitively expensive to make movies there. As if that wasn't enough, the environmental laws there make it impossible to do much in the way of explosions, fires, using tricked out vehicles, etc. Hell, they can't even use solvent based rubber cement anymore there...

You get the point. California is crucial to America's economy in multiple ways.
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You get the point. California is becoming less and less critical to America's economy as business flees the state for elsewhere. It won't happen overnight. Michigan didn't see the auto industry leave all at once either. It took many decades for it to bail. But it did. Same with California. Back in the 40's through the 70's California was home to most of the US's aircraft industry. That's virtually all gone now except for a bit of R & D that doesn't heavily rely on actually making anything... It'll be several decades to come before California is truly hit, but it's coming...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's Intel's Chandler AZ plant. When Intel was looking for a location to build it, they told California's government the equivalent of "Fuck off we're not putting it in your useless state!"
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And yet almost all of Intel's design happens California, so not so useless.
 
Walt said:
California is the 20th fastest growing state. That does not make it one of the super fast growing state, but does mean it is growing faster than 30 other states.

About half of the population rise is internal growth, and about half is people moving to California. There are two general movements of people. Immigrants move into the USA and California, and then a generation or two later their descendants move out of California. And young people move into California from other parts of the country to find their fortune, and then many times later leave.
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Not sure why you ignoring the basic fact that within the U.S. more people have left California than come to the state for years. Our population has grown because of immigration and births.

Those are simple facts.
 
Grajonca said:
He works in NY or so he says!
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These days I work in NJ and Pennsylvania. If we can get a dedicated line out to Pennsylvania, I will almost only be working in Pennsylvania. I have not physically entered New York in several months now.
 
cawacko said:
Not sure why you ignoring the basic fact that within the U.S. more people have left California than come to the state for years. Our population has grown because of immigration and births.

Those are simple facts.
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Immigrants used to come to the NYC, and then slowly move out of the city to other parts of the USA. Now immigrants come to California, and slowly move out of the state to other parts of the USA. NYC and California are both places Americans go to try to make their fortunes, but many then leave when they find it too intense.

Both California and NYC are growing. Huge numbers of rural counties are not growing, but are shrinking. If only counties that were growing were allowed to vote, Clinton would have gotten 70% of the vote.
 
Walt said:
Immigrants used to come to the NYC, and then slowly move out of the city to other parts of the USA. Now immigrants come to California, and slowly move out of the state to other parts of the USA. NYC and California are both places Americans go to try to make their fortunes, but many then leave when they find it too intense.

Both California and NYC are growing. Huge numbers of rural counties are not growing, but are shrinking. If only counties that were growing were allowed to vote, Clinton would have gotten 70% of the vote.
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Actually there was very little growth in California in the past year and of the growth we did have much was in the central part of the state and east of L.A., not the coastal areas.
 
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