Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin (NYT)

Chaz said:
The NYT is somewhat limited, given its reputation for fake news.
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Regardless, as the links I pointed out earlier suggest, Wisconsin is most likely voting Biden. Trump and the Trumpeteers should focus on states they can win.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Regardless, as the links I pointed out earlier suggest, Wisconsin is most likely voting Biden. Trump and the Trumpeteers should focus on states they can win.
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You think Biden supporters can burn down Kenosha and still carry the state? That's some impressive self-confidence.
 
Chaz said:
Dutch Uncle said:
Regardless, as the links I pointed out earlier suggest, Wisconsin is most likely voting Biden. Trump and the Trumpeteers should focus on states they can win.
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You think Biden supporters can burn down Kenosha and still carry the state? That's some impressive self-confidence.
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Doubtful. Why do you think what will happen? I'm just looking at the odds. I have no personal politics in this like you and the white supremacists. I already linked the odds and was just curious if there was any evidence that the events in Kenosha are going to flip the state.

Why are you ignoring the sound advice to focus on strengths and letting go of lost causes in an election Trump is losing?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Probably. I don't know. All I was asking was for data on how much this swung the votes be it state or national.

It's funny to see you all riled up like you're really on the ball. :)
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Not riled up at all. Its just that I know I am 100% correct on this issue. Come election night everyone else will know just how correct I was too. I always am. ALL politics are local.
 
Stone said:
Not riled up at all. Its just that I know I am 100% correct on this issue. Come election night everyone else will know just how correct I was too. I always am. ALL politics are local.
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Awesome. So you're predicting Trump wins with over 300 Electoral votes? 400? All 538? What is your prediction?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Awesome. So you're predicting Trump wins with over 300 Electoral votes? 400? All 538? What is your prediction?
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Nope. Made my prediction long ago in here and sticking with it. He will win by a decent margin but not like the electoral blowout in 16.
 
dukkha said:
yu fucking idiot.
National numbers aren't significant.. WI is a battleground state
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Uncle Carp needs a tutorial on the electoral college lol?

How could it *not* cause movement away from Democrats in WI? Or anywhere else for that matter. Democrats own this crap up and down and always have. To make matters worse, they are only now starting to talk about it because it might help Trump.

IOW, they don’t really care about the property and lives being destroyed *in largely black communities* until it starts to effect their chances of finally getting rid of Trump, finally.

Democrats richly deserve to have their asses handed to them in November.
 
Stretch said:
Parents condemn the violence.

Jacob Blake’s parents are disgusted by the BLM riots across America, expresses respect for Trump

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Radical Right Wing extremists are doing the rioting, looting, and burning- TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE PROTESTORS ARE DOING IT!

Trump is the one egging them on! Trump thinks if he can make the protestors look like criminals the people will get scared and vote for him- BECAUSE HE THINSK HE HAS PEOPLE FOOLED INTO BELIEVING IF PEOPLE DON'T VOTE FOR HIM, THE PROTESTORS ARE COMING TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS!

IT"S ALL A SCAM!
 
dukkha said:
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Neither John Antaramian, the mayor of Kenosha, nor Jim Kreuser, the county executive, responded to requests for comment. (The positions are nonpartisan, but both men previously served in the State Assembly as Democrats.)

“There’s people running all over with guns — it’s like some Wild West town,” Mr. Biehn said. “We are just waiting here like sitting ducks waiting to get picked off.”

He added: “It’s chaos — everybody is afraid.”

Mr. Trump, he said, “was not my man,” but now he is grateful he is president.


He said he seemed to understand in a way that other politicians did not.

“There’s nobody fighting back,” he said. “Nobody is paying attention to what’s going on.”

Scott Haight, who was boarding up a line of businesses in a Kenosha strip mall on Tuesday, said he blamed Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes, a Democrat, for what he said was irresponsibly stirring up emotion. (On Monday, Mr. Barnes said the shooting “wasn’t an accident.”)

“It’s like ‘What, are you trying to burn our city down?’” Mr. Haight said.

Mr. Haight, 59, said he was a “lifelong Democrat” but had decided not to vote this year.

“It’s not worth it,” he said. “One’s as bad as the other.”

Priscella Gazda, a waitress at a pizza restaurant in Kenosha, was having the opposite reaction. She said she had voted only once in her life — for Mr. Obama in 2008. Her son has Type 1 diabetes and was hoping for health insurance.

“I’m not the one who would ever vote,” she said.

But after the chaos in her town, this year is different.

“I am going to vote for Trump,” she said. “He seems to be more about the American people and what we need.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/kenosha-wisconsin-trump.html#click=https://t.co/ZVNixkn5FW
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Good to see the "failing" NYT is back in vogue w/ trump lovers.....:laugh:
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Radical Right Wing extremists are doing the rioting, looting, and burning- TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE PROTESTORS ARE DOING IT!

Trump is the one egging them on! Trump thinks if he can make the protestors look like criminals the people will get scared and vote for him- BECAUSE HE THINSK HE HAS PEOPLE FOOLED INTO BELIEVING IF PEOPLE DON'T VOTE FOR HIM, THE PROTESTORS ARE COMING TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS!

IT"S ALL A SCAM!
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Yeah.....thats why there are literally videos out there of confirmed BLM leaders being interviewed by CNN and MSNBC and the leaders are actually calling for rioting, violence, and burning. :rolleyes: Yeah,....thats why confirmed BLM leaders are on camera saying looting is good because it is reparations! :whoa: So the BLM leader wants reparations for RIGHT WING NAZIS? :rolleyes: Next time think things thru before making such absurd posts.
 
Stone said:
Nope. Made my prediction long ago in here and sticking with it. He will win by a decent margin but not like the electoral blowout in 16.
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You confidence isn't as certain as you initially posted. Trump won by a very narrow margin in key states to win. He's losing those states now by a healthy margin as pointed out with Wisconsin. Voters can flip like the wind blows if they want. Most tend to lean one way or another in a predictable enough pattern to forecast results. Right now the forecast is not very good for Trump as the links can point out.

The Democrat in the OP who is flipping isn't going to cause Wisconsin to flip for Trump.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You confidence isn't as certain as you initially posted. Trump won by a very narrow margin in key states to win. He's losing those states now by a healthy margin as pointed out with Wisconsin. Voters can flip like the wind blows if they want. Most tend to lean one way or another in a predictable enough pattern to forecast results. Right now the forecast is not very good for Trump as the links can point out.

The Democrat in the OP who is flipping isn't going to cause Wisconsin to flip for Trump.
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Whatever. I stand by my prediction with 100% confidence. I will be proven correct AGAIN this November.
 
dukkha said:
yu fucking idiot.
National numbers aren't significant.. WI is a battleground state
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Wait what you mean the President isn’t selected with the popular vote like leftists claim? So what you are saying is Trump won in 2016 fair and square

Well color me gob smacked
 
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