Christian symbolism in the movie 'The Matrix'

Cypress said:
Exactly right.
My best friend was confused by the movie, but I told him to read the novel. Which he did. Then when he saw the film the second time it made a lot more sense to him.
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I've been recording shows off BBC America to watch at my leisure. There are a lot of commercials showing older people explaining the advantages of owning gold coins. It's the same logic as seen on a lot of Fox News advertisements. Every time one of those comes up, I'm reminded of the Twilight Zone episode "The Rip Van Wrinkle Caper".

I used to have both gold and silver, but sold most of it 15 years ago to buy something more practical: a new and improved septic system. LOL

Now I only invest in ammo and toilet paper....which really came in handy during the pandemic. :D

It's free on Tubi and Pluto TV
Four thieves steal $1 million in gold bullion in a train robbery and hide the money in a mountainside cave. The four plan to go into suspended animation for approximately 100 years when they hope to awaken as extremely rich men with their heist long forgotten. When they awaken, they're not quite sure what year it is. One of them, De Cruz, has his eye on getting as much of the gold for himself as he possibly can. The world they have awakened in isn't exactly what they had hoped for.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I've been recording shows off BBC America to watch at my leisure. There are a lot of commercials showing older people explaining the advantages of owning gold coins. It's the same logic as seen on a lot of Fox News advertisements. Every time one of those comes up, I'm reminded of the Twilight Zone episode "The Rip Van Wrinkle Caper".

I used to have both gold and silver, but sold most of it 15 years ago to buy something more practical: a new and improved septic system. LOL

Now I only invest in ammo and toilet paper....which really came in handy during the pandemic. :D

It's free on Tubi and Pluto TV
Four thieves steal $1 million in gold bullion in a train robbery and hide the money in a mountainside cave. The four plan to go into suspended animation for approximately 100 years when they hope to awaken as extremely rich men with their heist long forgotten. When they awaken, they're not quite sure what year it is. One of them, De Cruz, has his eye on getting as much of the gold for himself as he possibly can. The world they have awakened in isn't exactly what they had hoped for.
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The average age of a FOX viewer is like 79 years old, that is a perfect audience for manufacturers of hearing aids and adult diapers. (y)

I remember really liking the Twighlight Zone, but it was so unique it defies genre classification. It's not really science fiction, nor drama, nor horror.
 
Cypress said:
The average age of a FOX viewer is like 79 years old, that is a perfect audience for manufacturers of hearing aids and adult diapers. (y)

I remember really liking the Twighlight Zone, but it was so unique it defies genre classification. It's not really science fiction, nor drama, nor horror.
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Lots of hearing aid ads too. I'd love to see a Trump ad with him vouching for the benefits of Depends.

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murph63 said:
Or making a trenchant point about your ignorance and your reliance on AI.

The irony is rich that YOU don't see you are playing out the lead up to the Matrix in real time.


That's how I know you are an intellectual faker. You can't understand SIMPLE METAPHOR.
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Cutting and pasting is not the Matrix, Murph. Go watch it again.
 
Cypress said:
Star Trek was the only reasonably good sci-fi in the 1960s, but I agree with you that there was a dry spell before good sci-fi started making an appearance in the late 1970s and 1980s.

Edit to add 1969's 2001 A Space Odessy is considered a cinematic masterpiece.
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Kubrick was always good for realistic filming. It was particularly difficult during the 'prehistory' section of the movie.

In my opinion, though, that portion took too long. It was a full 20 minutes before switching to the Moon transit.

Kubrick didn't depend on CGI much. It was generally all mechanical effects...some of them brilliantly conceived.

The trip through the Stargate was kinda lame though.

Arthur C Clark's book only went to Saturn, using Jupiter as an acceleration medium. Kubrick shortened the film by going only to Jupiter.

The original Star Trek series was a bit uneven, but had some good writers. One of Gene Roddenberry's biggest job was to keep these wacky writers in line. By the 2nd season, it finally mellowed into a cohesive series. The networks killed it because the want pablum. Star Trek only had 2 1/2 years of its 'five year mission'.

Firefly suffered even worse. It was cancelled by the network for the same reason before season 1 even completed. Despite it's short life, the episodes had formed a cohesive group and they were well written.

Of course, every one of them created some phrases that people repeated often:

"He dead, Jim" -- Star Trek
"It's life, Jim, but not as we know it" -- Star Trek
"One micron and closing!" -- Battlestar Galactica
"Open the pod bay doors, HAL" -- 2001
"My god...it's full of stars!" -- 2001 (now used by some pyrotechnicians when building shells)
"Hey...Bomb...??" -- Dark Star
"Ahhhh, I don't wanna feed the alien!" -- Dark Star
"May the Force be with you!" -- Star Wars
"It's always good to have a blaster at your side, kid!" -- Star Wars
"Welcome...to the real world." -- The Matrix
"Guns...lots of guns! -- The Matrix
 
Cypress said:
The average age of a FOX viewer is like 79 years old, that is a perfect audience for manufacturers of hearing aids and adult diapers. (y)
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Argument from randU fallacy.
Cypress said:
I remember really liking the Twighlight Zone, but it was so unique it defies genre classification. It's not really science fiction, nor drama, nor horror.
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The Twilight Zone was science fiction. Rod Serling wrote the episodes, and he was a brilliant writer. After only two years, though. he tapped out. His writing suffered from lack of inspiration.

The Outer Limits used several writers, and was similarly good scifi.

Both would take a commonly accepted norm or law of physics, and set it aside to explore what would happen. This is a classic scifi technique.

Another excellent write at the time was Alfred Hitchcock. He didn't write scifi, but wrote mystery and murder stories. He was a brilliant photographer as well, never showing the actual violence much, but simply suggesting it and letting your imagination do the rest (often more horrifying than could be portrayed on film anyway!).

Some of the scifi at the time was quite well done as well. Others went for the corny formula monster movie.

The Forbin project was an excellent piece. Only one book was translated to flim, however.
The only computer in Universal Studios films that didn't blow up (and usually take the building with it).

A good piece of scifi was Logan's Run. The book was quite good. The movie sucked. The series sucked even worse.

Another well written piece of scifi was Dragon's Egg, but it was never transcribed to film. It would be very difficult to do as a piece of film though.
The Two Faces of Tomorrow was another good book, but it was never transcribed to film. It would be difficult to do so, but easier than Dragon's Egg.
 
Into the Night said:
The Twilight Zone was science fiction!
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While many episodes feature futuristic settings or technology, the Twilight Zone refuses to fit into just one box. [1, 2]
    • Science Fiction: Some stories involve space travel, alien invasions, time travel, and dystopian futures.
    • Fantasy and Horror: Many tales involve ghosts, magic, monsters, and the supernatural.
    • Human Drama: Most episodes focus on ordinary people trapped in bizarre moral or psychological tests. [1, 2, 3]
 
Into the Night said:
Kubrick was always good for realistic filming. It was particularly difficult during the 'prehistory' section of the movie.

In my opinion, though, that portion took too long. It was a full 20 minutes before switching to the Moon transit.

Kubrick didn't depend on CGI much. It was generally all mechanical effects...some of them brilliantly conceived.

The trip through the Stargate was kinda lame though.
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I mostly agree.

I seem to recall it begins with several minutes of black empty screen, which was totally unnecessary.

I didn't mind the extensive scenes with the proto-humans, because as the the book conceives it the alien monoliths are integral to the story arc about advanced aliens triggering human evolution.
 
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