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guno said:
Nor do we live by christer law


abortion is not only permitted but is required should the pregnancy endanger the life or health
of the pregnant individual. Furthermore, “health” is commonly interpreted to encompass
psychological health as well as physical health.


What does Jewish law say about the rights of the person who is pregnant and the
rights of the fetus?

Judaism values life and affirms that protecting existing life is paramount
at all stages of pregnancy. A fetus is not considered a person under Jewish law and therefore
does not have the same rights as one who is already alive. As such, the interests of the
pregnant individual always come before that of the fetus.
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Yes like I said it only permits abortion if the mother's life is in danger which A) isn't a thing in the medically advanced developed world and B) is an exemption already made under these new heartbeat laws.
 
evince said:
And that it is a cluster of cells that needs a womb to develop in


Someone owns that womb


It’s their choice to decide what happens inside that womb
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Nope it's a unique individual with unique individual DNA that makes up the totality of the genetic building blocks that will ever make up the individual human being at that moment of conception. You can't own humans, deal with it.
 
evince said:
And that it is a cluster of cells that needs a womb to develop in


Someone owns that womb


It’s their choice to decide what happens inside that womb
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If a woman suffers a miscarriage does she mourn the loss of her child?
 
TOP said:
If a woman suffers a miscarriage does she mourn the loss of her child?
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And that matters how?


Some do some don’t


How does that effect this law?


When you get kicked in the nuts do you mourn the sperm that are destroyed?
 
evince said:
And that it is a cluster of cells that needs a womb to develop in


Someone owns that womb


It’s their choice to decide what happens inside that womb
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Nope the minute that she chose to have unprotected sex she leased that womb to another human renter (half whom also have wombs). There is an implied contract that most women understand..
 
Concart said:
No it did not. Please quote the relevant section. I'll wait.
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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
 
Shoresy said:
Nope it's a unique individual with unique individual DNA that makes up the totality of the genetic building blocks that will ever make up the individual human being at that moment of conception. You can't own humans, deal with it.
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And it’s inside a fully functioning human being with intact rights



Hand over the rights to your scrotum and sperm to the government if you think a human should accept the government owning a persons body for 9 months
 
ExpressLane said:
Nope the minute that she chose to have unprotected sex she leased that womb to another human renter (half whom also have wombs). There is an implied contract that most women understand..
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but the male decided to have unprotected sex too idiot


Make him hand over his balls and spermatozoa the government too
 
Jarod said:
PIMP, read my post. They could easily said the right of the unborn supersedes the right to privacy, and taken away the right to Abortion, they went further and took away an entire branch, the largest, of individual rights.

You are celebrating the largest grab of personal freedoms the government has ever taken from individuals. You are dumb and a liar!
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read it, dismissed you as a fool, paid no more attention to your ridiculous, untrue claims.....if someone takes away your right what to eat for breakfast, where you should live, what job you may work at, you let us know......so far all they have taken away is your right to kill another person and then only in some states......
 
Shoresy said:
A) we don't live under Jewish law.

B) I'm pretty sure the ten commandments are Jewish law and number one with a bullet is though shalt not murder.

C) Jewish law only supports abortion in the case where the mothers life is threatened which is still am exception allowed for in all the states allowing for heartbeat restrictions.
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And we will never accept living under your religions laws either
 
evince said:
And that matters how?


Some do some don’t


How does that effect this law?


When you get kicked in the nuts do you mourn the sperm that are destroyed?
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You just answered my question....she does.
Does getting kicked in the nuts destroy sperm? And if so that matters how?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
read it, dismissed you as a fool, paid no more attention to your ridiculous, untrue claims.....if someone takes away your right what to eat for breakfast, where you should live, what job you may work at, you let us know......so far all they have taken away is your right to kill another person and then only in some states......
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The fully functioning human that contains a cluster of cells has rights to their own body
 
Are you men willing to give your nut sack to your government?


Then don’t ask me to give my womb to the government



Fair is fair



No Sperm


No cluster of cells



PROOVE YOU THINK ITS OK TO NOT OWN YOUR BODY UNDER THE LAW
 
Jarod said:
I’m sure there are some, I support any individual right that does not significantly and adversely affect important rights of others, it’s a balancing act. Where does my right end because the harm it causes is significant enough to prohibit it.
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as of now, with the death of the child......and even that isn't important enough for you.....
 
Shoresy said:
That's because we live in a federalist system where we have these things called state governments and the heartbeat laws being implemented by some of these state governments are far more in line with Europe than the up to birth abortions we previously had you retarded fuck.

The Constitution enshrined life as an inalienable right.
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Had the radical left not tried to push the limits of abortion so far they wouldn't have had as much pushback from the right.
 
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