Deep Green Freeze

Really? How is needing storage for energy when it can be reliably produced on demand not stupid? Explain why using, variously, flywheels, batteries, pumped hydro, or whatever to store energy is a desirable thing that will lower electrical energy costs compared to production on demand.
Only natural gas doesn't need storage you idiot. Every other fuel source needs to be stored before it is burnt.

Shut the fuck up you blazing retard.
 
Only natural gas doesn't need storage you idiot. Every other fuel source needs to be stored before it is burnt.

Shut the fuck up you blazing retard.

Fossil fuels are not stored as electricity. Storage of electricity is expensive to do by comparison... Grossly expensive.
 

This link is from 2013, you insisted there were bankruptcies since 2015.

Sloppy work.



This link is from 2012, you insisted there were bankruptcies since 2015.

Sloppy work.



This link is from 2012, you insisted there were bankruptcies since 2015.

Sloppy work.



This link isn't even American, it's Austrian, it's a word doc with no hyperlinks, it covers only 2009-2015, and appears to be all foreign companies.

Sloppy work.
 

So you sloppily shat forth three outdated links that don't support your contention that since 2015, green energy companies have gone under.

You also shat forth a fourth link that is just a Word doc, with no references or hyperlinks to make sure what is in the doc is accurate (because we know you never read your own sources), that isn't an American source, doesn't even mention American companies, and is very clearly an unsourced, cherry picked list that I'm 99% sure if we held to scrutiny would probably collapse under the weight of its own bullshit.
 
Countries and states with a great deal of intermittent electricity from wind and solar power are having problems keeping the lights on when the weather does not cooperate.

hey dumbfuck there are 3 power grids in the US - Western, Eastern, and Texan

yeah that's correct, TX is run by pirates with ZERO financial incentive to prepare for emergencies, and who of obviously did not



...oh forgot, TX is only 10% renewable, and those facilities fared quite well

suck it annie
 
Solyndra is one of hundreds of solar and wind companies that went bankrupt since 2015.

Just so everyone's clear...

Solyndra went bankrupt in 2011.

Three of the four links you gave me were outdated, from 2012 and 2013.

The fourth link you gave didn't even reference American green energy, it was a Word doc, UNSOURCED, from Austria that didn't contain any hyperlinks in order to verify the accuracy of what is in the document.

So what you didn't do was provide the list of solar and wind companies that went bankrupt since 2015.

Every seemingly credible reference and source you gave me were outdated and didn't support your contention here.
 
The record so far is not good.

Only 10% of Texas' energy comes from wind, and those wind plants did much better than the coal and gas plants, which make up 82% of the generation capacity in the state, yet made up 86% of the decline of capacity as of Monday night.
 
hey dumbfuck there are 3 power grids in the US - Western, Eastern, and Texan

yeah that's correct, TX is run by pirates with ZERO financial incentive to prepare for emergencies, and who of obviously did not



...oh forgot, TX is only 10% renewable, and those facilities fared quite well

suck it annie
Total thread fail.
 
My car's gas tank is 10 gallons and I refill it probably once a month during normal times.

So that would be 120 gallons of gasoline (oil for the benefit of this discussion) a year vs. 10-60 (? that's quite a range) for the lifetime of the turbine?

Still seems like the turbine is a better use of everything.




Right, but they didn't stay that way because the turbines can be de-iced and snow can be shoveled off solar panels.

If an airplane gets ice on its wings and is unable to fly, do they just ground all the planes or do they de-ice them so they can work?



lubricating oil vs gasoline---------apples and oranges

yes, the can be deiced. using petroleum products. it takes a lot of heat to make solar panels. Heat produced by burning hydrocarbons. batteries? check into where the lithium comes from. strip mining using child labor in Africa.

the green movement ignores reality.
 
lubricating oil vs gasoline---------apples and oranges

You're the one who brought them up.


yes, the can be deiced. using petroleum products.

Any time I've sat on a plane and saw another plane being de-iced they always use water, not oil.


it takes a lot of heat to make solar panels. Heat produced by burning hydrocarbons. batteries? check into where the lithium comes from. strip mining using child labor in Africa.

Whataboutism isn't going to erase the massive failures of the fossil fuel industry in Texas.


the green movement ignores reality.

What "reality" are you talking about here?
 
Hilarious circle jerk unconnected to fact. These shortages are a result of Texas being unprepared for weather this cold. It is a massive leadership failure, which the governor immediately tried to pass off on the Green New Deal.

Please continue.

Stupid twat, Cairo is actually north of Houston!!
 
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