DEMOCRATS are moving to get illegal votes legitimized

Bourbon said:
So after you come out of jail ... you can't determine your own destiny? God I'm glad I don't live in a Conservative World.
No wonder you Dinosaurs are becoming extinct.
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You live in a world where the White House, both houses of Congress and most state governments are controlled by elected conservatives. How do you reconcile those facts with your extinction theory?
 
God bless America said:
You live in a world where the White House, both houses of Congress and most state governments are controlled by elected conservatives. How do you reconcile those facts with your extinction theory?
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I understand why you guys are so angry ... that Light at the end of the Tunnel has got you scared.
 
God bless America said:
Clearly you should consider what you post and make sure it articulates your meaning, since child abuse and hate crimes don't involve betraying our country, selling our secrets, or spying on our country.
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As I said I thought you would get the gist of the post that not all crimes are equal when it comes to restoration of rights. But clearly I was wrong you sound just like a leftie. But, but, but you weren't exact in your meaning. Boo hoo hoo.
 
Eagle Eye said:
As I said I thought you would get the gist of the post that not all crimes are equal when it comes to restoration of rights. But clearly I was wrong you sound just like a leftie. But, but, but you weren't exact in your meaning. Boo hoo hoo.
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Expecting anyone to extrapolate "child abuse and hate crimes" from "betraying our country, selling our secrets, and spying on our country" seems like a stretch, doesn't it?
 
God bless America said:
You're all over the place on this issue. You want your high school beer buddies to get a pass while you want the book thrown at everyone else, apparently.
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God bless America said:
Expecting anyone to extrapolate "child abuse and hate crimes" from "betraying our country, selling our secrets, and spying on our country" seems like a stretch, doesn't it?
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I direct you to your initial response. You didn't even understand my meaning from the onset. Then when I explained it to you, you still couldn't understand. I added information and you started whining like little lefties that I wasn'the clear enough. Yep I agree with others here you are a loser.u
 
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Eagle Eye said:
I direct you to your initial response. You didn't even understand my meaning from the onset. Then we I explained it to you you still couldn't understand. I added information and you started whining like little lefties that I wasn'the clear enough. Yep I agree with others here you are a loser.
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Hilarious. You're really butthurt because I called you on your BS, aren't you?

Eagle Eye said:
Those who betrayed this country should never have their rights restored.
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Are you saying that people convicted of "child abuse and hate crimes" "betrayed this country", or do you think I should have guessed what you meant?
 
God bless America said:
Hilarious. You're really butthurt because I called you on your BS, aren't you?



Are you saying that people convicted of "child abuse and hate crimes" "betrayed this country", or do you think I should have guessed what you meant?
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Are you so stupid not to see they are different crimes? I apologize for expecting you to be able to comprehend, more than one item at a time. :(
 
GBA
The following are crimes that should be exempt from having rights restored.
1. Treason
2. Child abuse
3. Hate crimes
4. DUI involving death.
This is just a partial list.

LET ME KNOW IF I NEED TO GET SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!! :palm:

ADDED: THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT CRIMES NOT RELATED TO EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!
 
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Bourbon said:
So after you come out of jail ... you can't determine your own destiny?

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obviously not.....can someone with multiple DUI convictions determine their own destiny to have a driver's license?.........can someone with a rape conviction determine their own destiny to stay off the sex offender list?......
 
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Do you think it should be held against them for life even though they prove they can become productive citizens?


God bless America said:
If that's what the statutes specify, yes.
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Well, let me share some personal history here.
Back when I was 22, a few friends and myself (we owned some pretty fast cars) were having a few beers down by the river. Just as beer often grows muscles, it also increases the amount of horsepower in one's automobile. One of those friends bet me $5 his 440 MOPAR could dust my 351C Ford. After chasing him all over town to collect my $5, he finally stopped, but by then my car was running about 220+ degrees and I decided to go home. On my way home through my town (at 1:30 in the morning with no traffic), I was running a consistent 1500 rpm in 3 rd gear, running stop signs on my way. Unknowing to me, a cop was sitting with his lights off at one of those stop signs. Well, stupid me, thought I could out run him, and I did until taking a 90 degree turn a block from my house. I hit 3rd. gear instead of 1st. and stalled my engine. I got out of my car and leaned against the trunk until the cop caught up to me. Pissed that I had gained so much distance on him, he proceeded to get the vehicle code book out and started writing citations. after nearly 1/2 hour and a stack of citations about 1/2 inch thick, I went home. Fortunately, it wasn't a felony at that time.
Now, after lawyer fees, fines (that amounted to over $2000) and losing my license for 6 months, I learned something, to say the least.

Since that time (35 yrs. ago), I voted in every election, maintained gainful employment, retained my CCW permit, became a certified firearms instructor, competed in hi-power rifle competitions, bought a home, got married, then divorced and am living quite comfortably to name just a few of my accomplishments. I have only had contact with law enforcement (except at our gun club and a casual conversation) 3 times since, 2 speeding tickets and one running a stop sign (bet your ass, I stopped for that one!).

Should I have lost my rights then? Did I, after having that brush with the law, deserve not to prove I could (and did) become a productive citizen? Or should I have been shot on sight?
 
RB 60 said:
Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
Do you think it should be held against them for life even though they prove they can become productive citizens?




Well, let me share some personal history here.
Back when I was 22, a few friends and myself (we owned some pretty fast cars) were having a few beers down by the river. Just as beer often grows muscles, it also increases the amount of horsepower in one's automobile. One of those friends bet me $5 his 440 MOPAR could dust my 351C Ford. After chasing him all over town to collect my $5, he finally stopped, but by then my car was running about 220+ degrees and I decided to go home. On my way home through my town (at 1:30 in the morning with no traffic), I was running a consistent 1500 rpm in 3 rd gear, running stop signs on my way. Unknowing to me, a cop was sitting with his lights off at one of those stop signs. Well, stupid me, thought I could out run him, and I did until taking a 90 degree turn a block from my house. I hit 3rd. gear instead of 1st. and stalled my engine. I got out of my car and leaned against the trunk until the cop caught up to me. Pissed that I had gained so much distance on him, he proceeded to get the vehicle code book out and started writing citations. after nearly 1/2 hour and a stack of citations about 1/2 inch thick, I went home. Fortunately, it wasn't a felony at that time.
Now, after lawyer fees, fines (that amounted to over $2000) and losing my license for 6 months, I learned something, to say the least.

Since that time (35 yrs. ago), I voted in every election, maintained gainful employment, retained my CCW permit, became a certified firearms instructor, competed in hi-power rifle competitions, bought a home, got married, then divorced and am living quite comfortably to name just a few of my accomplishments. I have only had contact with law enforcement (except at our gun club and a casual conversation) 3 times since, 2 speeding tickets and one running a stop sign (bet your ass, I stopped for that one!).

Should I have lost my rights then? Did I, after having that brush with the law, deserve not to prove I could (and did) become a productive citizen? Or should I have been shot on sight?
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Since you paid the penalty prescribed by the existing law - as you should have, the question is moot. Seems like people want a personal pass for things they do but want justice for everyone else.
 
God bless America said:
Since you paid the penalty prescribed by the existing law - as you should have, the question is moot. Seems like people want a personal pass for things they do but want justice for everyone else.
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Yes, I did, and after 3 years, my record was expunged and is still spotless. My point isn't that some people want a personal pass (I didn't, I knew what I did), it's more that the punishment should not only fit the crime, but also consider that some do gain a better outlook and can prosper from it. Repeat offenders and violent crimes are in a different category IMO, but today, I'd lose my rights (being a felon) and limit the opportunity (often in employment) to prove I could succeed.
 
RB 60 said:
Yes, I did, and after 3 years, my record was expunged and is still spotless. My point isn't that some people want a personal pass (I didn't, I knew what I did), it's more that the punishment should not only fit the crime, but also consider that some do gain a better outlook and can prosper from it. Repeat offenders and violent crimes are in a different category IMO, but today, I'd lose my rights (being a felon) limit and the opportunity (often in employment) to prove I could succeed.
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In many states the law allows felons to regain some of their civil rights conditionally. I think that's a mistake. If the consequences of crime don't leave a lasting impact on convicted criminals, the deterrent value of penalties is lessened, IMO.
 
God bless America said:
In many states the law allows felons to regain some of their civil rights conditionally. I think that's a mistake. If the consequences of crime don't leave a lasting impact on convicted criminals, the deterrent value of penalties is lessened, IMO.
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Some states do, but I believe they have to either take their case in front of a judge after a reasonable length of time, have good reason, character witnesses, etc., or a state parole board.
Which brings me back to the punishment fitting the crime. Violent crimes should carry harsh penalties, That, and if they are repeat offenders, the punishment should increase with each violation.

But back to the OP, the Democrats probably will gain the votes of anyone given amnesty, because Democrats are overlooking the crime of them being here illegally.
 
RB 60 said:
Some states do, but I believe they have to either take their case in front of a judge after a reasonable length of time, have good reason, character witnesses, etc., or a state parole board.
Which brings me back to the punishment fitting the crime. Violent crimes should carry harsh penalties, That, and if they are repeat offenders, the punishment should increase with each violation.

But back to the OP, the Democrats probably will gain the votes of anyone given amnesty, because Democrats are overlooking the crime of them being here illegally.
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You are correct. DEMOCRATS are willing to trade amnesty for votes. Hopefully the effects of the Trump tax cuts will forestall their efforts.
 
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