Do the humanities need a rebrand?

Cypress said:
LOL, the Holy Roman Empire was not different tribes speaking different languages.
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Jesus Christ, how fucking thick can you possibly be? I never said that. I referred to the germanic tribes.
Cypress said:
You're thinking of the Goths of the age of Roman antiquity.
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And at least nine other tribes.
It's all here:

I can only assume you didn't know that.
Cypress said:
The principalities of the HRE were all Germanic speaking people loosely united under the Holy Roman Emperor ever since the Middle Ages, and ultimately united under the leadership of the Germanic state of Prussia in 1871.
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Duh. Basically what I already said. :palm:
Cypress said:
You obviously didn't even know what the HRE until this thread.
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I already knew you weren't nearly as smart as you think you are, but I swear you're getting stupider by the day. FFS, that's like ninth grade history class.
Cypress said:
Your barely adequate skills in conversational German
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Level B2 Goethe-Institut made me accredited to work as a professional.
Cypress said:
is not even remotely close to being equivalent to a German degree from an accredited American university.
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Which is not remotely close to being equivalent to living there and integrating for 3 years.
Cypress said:
The university requires you to become knowledgeable not only with the language of Germany, but it's history, literature, it's politics, it's cinema, culture, and philosophy.
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Good for them. I have no interest in it's requirements. I got first hand knowledge through integration/immersion.
Cypress said:
You're supposed to graduate as accomplished student of Germany, not just someone who can order beer and sausages at an Oktoberfest in Hamburg
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Why would I want a degree like that?
 
Hume said:
No one is forced to take art history.
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Actually, we were.
Cypress said:
Every friend I had, with one exception, who got bachelor's degrees in the humanities eventually ended up in white collar professional jobs. .

The one exception was a dude who had a union blue collar job.

None of them had a Starbucks career.
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Yeah, last time I dealt with a dude who had just gotten a Bachelor's Degree, he fucked up the entire 2nd floor of the Sarasota County courthouse.
Not good times going around and fixing what that idiot fucked up.
It got done, though. Me and a black dude did that. He may have been let go, but nothing was ever said to him overtly.
Yeah, it was like that.
That was the plan. We quietly went around and fixed all his fuckups on who knows how many the fuck of square feet in a building.
2nd floor of the Sarasota Courthouse. He fucked up all of it. All of it.
Thank God they stopped him from going to another floor, too, because there were more.
 
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Hume said:
tough shit
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What foreign language did you take?
I still remember that damn class. Some people in there I'd been seeing for over decade.
Didn't like all of them. Younger brother of some guys from the neighborhood, he was cool.
I can probably still name all his brothers. Then the albino nigger from across town, I never liked that motherfucker.
He's lucky he didn't charge out into that field where we whipped all their asses. :rofl2:
A friend of a guy I kicked the everloving shit out of and almost killed, he was in that class, too.
Pieces of shit all. The black dude with the brothers was cool, though, and a few other girls in there. It was what it was.
The class was shit, the curriculum was shit.
The Prof was an atheist.
 
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Moosakofsky said:
Jesus Christ, how fucking thick can you possibly be? I never said that. I referred to the germanic tribes.

And at least nine other tribes.
It's all here:

I can only assume you didn't know that.

Duh. Basically what I already said. :palm:

I already knew you weren't nearly as smart as you think you are, but I swear you're getting stupider by the day. FFS, that's like ninth grade history class.

Level B2 Goethe-Institut made me accredited to work as a professional.

Which is not remotely close to being equivalent to living there and integrating for 3 years.

Good for them. I have no interest in it's requirements. I got first hand knowledge through integration/immersion.

Why would I want a degree like that?
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It's interesting reading this exchange. One can absolutely do what you did, travel and live somewhere and become immersed in their culture. There's arguably no better way to learn.

Doing that though doesn't get you a certificate or fancy degree.

And of course you can also learn in a classroom, it's just a different kind of learning.

My father was in academia so I'm familiar with the type that values a credential far more than real world experience.
 
Hume said:
Ancient Greek and Modern French. Two years of each.
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So are you currently working as an Ancient Greek or Modern French translator?
I have a friend that speaks 5 languages fluently and pretty sure is a translator for all all of them.
I reckon we're not the same.
She's really like family. We have a deep bond.
 
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Hume said:
Jones: How do you counter the narrative that going to college isn’t worth the investment, or that it’s a financial risk?

Acampora: I’d encourage people to look at the data, which strongly show college-educated workers fare better than those without a degree, almost universally across fields of study. They make more money, have better health outcomes, and live longer. From a holistic lifespan perspective, college is worth it.

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Copy and paste where it says people graduating with a humanities degree make more money, have better heath outcomes and live longer.
 
Hume said:
Jones: How do you counter the narrative that going to college isn’t worth the investment, or that it’s a financial risk?

Acampora: I’d encourage people to look at the data, which strongly show college-educated workers fare better than those without a degree, almost universally across fields of study. They make more money, have better health outcomes, and live longer. From a holistic lifespan perspective, college is worth it.

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I know plumbers that make more than college graduates, and plumbers don't have a college debt to pay off.

People will pay a lot to someone that is willing to dig into a sewer system or unstop your toilet.
 
Hume said:
Yet, college graduates earn more over a lifetime than non-college graduates.
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Not necessarily true.
There are several examples of people that never graduated from college that make far more money in their lifetime than any college graduate.

Bill Gates.
Steve Balmer.
Michael Faraday.
Thomas Edison.
...are just a few.

Therefore your theory is falsified.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Art history, world religion history that they get wrong in the textbook, and you know better.
Greek Mythology and Philosophy. I mean, it's needed for higher education, but I still think 80% of it sucks donkey nuts.
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I still think Latin should be taught. It is the source of many English words. It wouldn't hurt to learn Greek, French, German, Chinese (Cantonese), and Japanese either. At the least is makes international discussion easier, and you can make good money as a translator.
 
Acampora: Even when I talk to parents, they want to understand what kind of jobs align with a history major. Yet, if you ask them what they studied and how they ended up where they are, their pathways took all kinds of twists and turns. I studied philosophy and became a philosopher, but I worked in advertising and marketing first because I liked creative work. I realized I enjoyed thinking about big ideas, fitting them together, and talking to people about them, which led me into academic administration and leadership.

 
Hume said:
fuck you
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LMAO its a legitimate question. I know you're aching to have people recognize the "value" of a humanities education. You want to hear a good joke? Sure you do! Whats the difference between a humanities degree and a large pepperoni pizza?
 
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