Do you believe in an unlimited presidency?

[Jarod]

It is clear to me, intentionally or not, Trump’s affect on the presidency will be to make it almost unlimited by checks, especially if popular. The Supreme Court has removed fear of later prosecution and limits based on legality.

Executive orders are now much more powerful. A president can, without restraint, direct prosecution of personal enemies. Direct audits. Impose tariffs, and stonewall congress.

Is that a good thing?

 

[Hume]

It is clear to me, intentionally or not, Trump’s affect on the presidency will be to make it almost unlimited by checks, especially if popular. The Supreme Court has removed fear of later prosecution and limits based on legality.

Executive orders are now much more powerful. A president can, without restraint, direct prosecution of personal enemies. Direct audits. Impose tariffs, and stonewall congress.

Is that a good thing?

Worst moment in US history. And yes, I have heard of the Civil War.

 

[Jarod]

Worst moment in US history. And yes, I have heard of the Civil War.

Explain and elaborate. If you can.

 

[Hume]

Explain and elaborate. If you can.

Trump tried a violent coup and was never punished or prosecuted. He is a convicted felon.
This is a major turning point in our democracy.

 

[Jarod]

I forgot to mention the ability to indiscriminately murder people at will without indictment or legal process.

 

[Hume]

I forgot to mention the ability to indiscriminately murder people at will without indictment or legal process.

Like German Gestapo. A police force only answerable to Hitler.

 

[Jarod]

Like German Gestapo. A police force only answerable to Hitler.

Yes. Police are above the law, because it suits the administrations goal. This is bad no matter what ideology is in office. They have cheered the end of such limits.

Trumppers have expanded the power of the federal government more than and political movement.

@Yakuda
@T. A. Gardner
@Lionfish

 

[Hume]

Yes. Police are above the law, because it suits the administrations goal. This is bad no matter what ideology is in office. They have cheered the end of such limits.

Trumppers have expanded the power of the federal government more than and political movement.

I fear for our democracy.

 

[Stone]

It is clear to me, intentionally or not, Trump’s affect on the presidency will be to make it almost unlimited by checks, especially if popular. The Supreme Court has removed fear of later prosecution and limits based on legality.

Executive orders are now much more powerful. A president can, without restraint, direct prosecution of personal enemies. Direct audits. Impose tariffs, and stonewall congress.

Is that a good thing?

No In some cases I don't.

Republican Presidency = UNLIMITED POWER, able to do as he pleases without the consent of anyone.

Democrat Presidency= No power whatsoever. In fact,...they shouldn't even speak or say anything. Just kind of sit there for four years and look stupid as we use you as a punching bag to blame all of societies ills on.

I could go for something along those lines I guess if we don't manage to disband the Democrat party completely and make it illegal for the corrupt ongoing criminal enterprise that it actually is.

 

[Jarod]

No In some cases I don't.

Republican Presidency = UNLIMITED POWER, able to do as he pleases without the consent of anyone.

Democrat Presidency= No power whatsoever. In fact,...they shouldn't even speak or say anything. Just kind of sit there for four years and look stupid as we use you as a punching bag to blame all of societies ills on.

I could go for something along those lines I guess if we don't manage to disband the Democrat party completely and make it illegal for the corrupt ongoing criminal enterprise that it actually is.

What you’ve done doesn’t work that way. The law works on precedent, not political ideology.

You have given the next president excessive power, regardless of ideology.

 

[Stone]

What you’ve done doesn’t work that way. The law works on precedent, not political ideology.

You have given the next president excessive power, regardless of ideology.

What we Republicans giveth,...we Republicans can also taketh away. By any means necessary.

 

[evince]

Worst moment in US history. And yes, I have heard of the Civil War.

And they won’t like it when the people refuse to go to work in their dicktastership

 

[evince]

What we Republicans giveth,...we Republicans can also taketh away. By any means necessary.

You gonna kill Americans?

Fucking terrorist

 

[Cypress]

Executive orders are now much more powerful. A president can, without restraint, direct prosecution of personal enemies. Direct audits. Impose tariffs, and stonewall congress.

Is that a good thing?

20 years ago conservative posters would howl in protest if you insinuated they are proto-fascists. But the Trump-lovers among them no longer fight to deny it.

 

[Jarod]

What we Republicans giveth,...we Republicans can also taketh away. By any means necessary.

Stupid.

 

[Jarod]

20 years ago conservative posters would howl in protest if you insinuated they are proto-fascists. But the Trump-lovers among them no longer fight to deny it.

Some still pretend, because “Hitler called his party National Socialists”.

They are dumb enough to think Trump is a “conservative”.

 

[Cypress]

Some still pretend, because “Hitler called his party National Socialists”.

They are dumb enough to think Trump is a “conservative”.

The Nazis purged their party of socialists back in the 1920s, and started fighting with socialists and communists in the streets.
The origin of their party's name is that in the earliest days they wanted to present themselves as appealing electorally to both right-wing nationalists and lefty socialists.

 

[Hume]

The Nazis purged their party of socialists back in the 1920s, and started fighting with socialists and communists in the streets.
The origin of their party's name is that in the earliest days they wanted to present themselves as appealing to both right-wing nationalists and lefty socialists.

Right. Socialism was popular in Germany and Italy.

 

[Jarod]

The Nazis purged their party of socialists back in the 1920s, and started fighting with socialists and communists in the streets.
The origin of their party's name is that in the earliest days they wanted to present themselves as appealing electorally to both right-wing nationalists and lefty socialists.

Any educated person, AKA not Trumppers, know that.

 

[Nordberg]

No In some cases I don't.

Republican Presidency = UNLIMITED POWER, able to do as he pleases without the consent of anyone.

Democrat Presidency= No power whatsoever. In fact,...they shouldn't even speak or say anything. Just kind of sit there for four years and look stupid as we use you as a punching bag to blame all of societies ills on.

I could go for something along those lines I guess if we don't manage to disband the Democrat party completely and make it illegal for the corrupt ongoing criminal enterprise that it actually is.

The Democratic Party governs within the restraints that history and law have put on the presidency. Trump ignortes the laws and precedent. You define that as strong, not corrupt and illegal. The Democratic Party has had to fix the horrible economic effects of the Repub Party, as they give all they can to the super wealthy.