@T. A. Gardner makes it larger than it really is.
Do you support bombing Iran back to the "Stone Ages"?
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T. A. Gardner
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Iran Conflict Reveals the Left Opposes War, Rejects Peace, and Lives Only to Oppose Trump - Johnathan Jones
The loudest voices on the left clutched their pearls when the first strikes in Iran began in February, warning of catastrophe and insisting that escalation would be reckless, immoral, and […]
Trump Says “The Radical Left, Country Hating Democrats Are Trying to Create Inner Chaos to Take Away From the Great Military Achievement We Are Having in Iran,” Boasting Success in Iran — “They Hate Seeing Us WIN so Completely and Decisively” - NewsB
President Donald Trump said in a Truth Social post on March 25 that Democrats are attempting to undermine what he described as a major U.S. military succes
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What America Has Lost in the War With Iran
Iran appears to have emerged as the winner in Donald Trump’s war of choice.
www.americanprogress.org
Among others. If you peruse any Leftist to radical Leftist site they're proclaiming America lost and Iran won. Their tenor is one of rooting for Iran and being against America totally.
T. A. Gardner
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No, I made it what it actually is.
BartenderElite
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Iran Conflict Reveals the Left Opposes War, Rejects Peace, and Lives Only to Oppose Trump - Johnathan Jones
The loudest voices on the left clutched their pearls when the first strikes in Iran began in February, warning of catastrophe and insisting that escalation would be reckless, immoral, and […]qoshe.com
Trump Says “The Radical Left, Country Hating Democrats Are Trying to Create Inner Chaos to Take Away From the Great Military Achievement We Are Having in Iran,” Boasting Success in Iran — “They Hate Seeing Us WIN so Completely and Decisively” - NewsB
President Donald Trump said in a Truth Social post on March 25 that Democrats are attempting to undermine what he described as a major U.S. military succes
What America Has Lost in the War With Iran
Iran appears to have emerged as the winner in Donald Trump’s war of choice.
Among others. If you peruse any Leftist to radical Leftist site they're proclaiming America lost and Iran won. Their tenor is one of rooting for Iran and being against America totally.
None of those are scientific. One is literally Trump saying it's the "radical left." All 3 are opinion pieces.
Did you just google and take the first 3 links?
Most polls show a majority of Americans opposing this war. And that includes prominent voices on the right.
Less?
@T. A. Gardner sure loves to pass around the opinion pieces as if they're facts.
T. A. Gardner
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Trivial objections fallacy on your part. I put up far more evidence in support of my position than you ever have of yours.
BartenderElite
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You're kidding here, right?
"Trivial?" You posted 3 opinion pieces. That's not evidence at all, of anything.
Look up any poll on the war. It's not just the "radical left."
My goodness.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Opinion pieces often contain lots of facts and verifiable information as the basis for forming those opinions. You are just making an Appeal to the Stone fallacy.
T. A. Gardner
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Trivial. It could also be considered an Appeal to the Stone fallacy on your part.
Then source those facts.
BartenderElite
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This is unserious.
Opinion pieces aren't proof of anything. By their very nature, they are not "facts."
Posting Trump saying it's the "radical left" isn't proof of anything, aside from the fact that he blames the radical left for lots of stuff.
T. A. Gardner
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Now you are just making a demand for more proof fallacy in the form of trivial objections. Why not read the articles, find which things in them are not valid points or factual and then make a counter argument using facts of your own to show how the articles are wrong?
Right now, you are dismissing my argument and the supporting articles and facts I gave out-of-hand with nothing, yet demanding I prove even more than I already have.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
By your standard, nothing written by anyone has any validity. That's absurd on its face.
BartenderElite
Verified User
That's not a logical conclusion either. I said nothing to indicate that.
Sorry - this discussion isn't going anywhere. You posted opinion - not facts. Some opinions ARE valid, but generally only when they're based on facts.
Most Americans oppose the war. Again - even prominent voices on the right.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Sure you did. You dismissed my sources, all of them, out-of-hand as "opinion pieces" without giving me a single sentence of rebuttal or countering facts.
BartenderElite
Verified User
People only counter w/ facts when there are facts to counter.
Trump talking about the "radical left" isn't a fact. And besides - I pointed out what the polls say, pretty consistently.
Do you think your sources were something other than opinion pieces? Was I wrong?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Since you clearly never read any of the articles I posted you never got to figuring out if there were facts to counter or not (and yes, there were facts in those articles). So, yes, you were wrong.
ZenMode
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He won't do it. He's dumb, but not that dumb.