How many votes were changed by the Russians? Give me a number.
I’ll wait here.
your assertion that Trump's own task force investigated fraud in 2016 and found absolutely none is correct. Try to comprehend the comment this time
How many votes were changed by the Russians? Give me a number.
I’ll wait here.
Who knows. They were definitely involved in efforts on the internet and elsewhere to influence voters.
But Trump claimed massive fraud in 2016 - both before and after the election. As he did this time around.
In the OP, you stated it was mail-in that basically caused this in 2020. But what about 2016? Why should we believe that Trump wouldn't be yelling "massive fraud" this year even if there was no mail in at all?
It's very simple math.
I'll explain it again: most of the mail-in ballots were from Democrats. This was established prior to the election, and verified by polls. Trump encouraged his supporters to actually vote on election day. Many Democrats took COVID more seriously and did mail in.
In general, mail-in ballots were counted last. Its is no mystery whatsoever why so many broke for Biden late. It is simple math and logic.

Trump is not the issue, mail ballots are the issue and I don’t care what Trump says about it.
blame your own side. they got greedy and their tactics were too obvious.
11/3 - Trump's up by 700k
PA closes up, stops counting so they can decide how many fake ballots they need.
by early morning (just a few short hours) phony ballots arrive, allllllllllll for burglar biden; magically Trump's lead disappears. 700,000!!!
Dems should have taken their time, throw some of those ballots into the mix all day long, inconspicuously, more natural-looking over that 12 hour period of voting.
you guys can't even cheat right.![]()
Why are mail ballots the issue? You know we've always had them to some degree, correct?
Please be specific on that. What about mail ballots seems suspicious to you?
We have never had a majority of mail in ballots as an election method. Ballot harvesting until recently was seen as a fraudulent means of voting and vote collecting. It still is, but there are those on the Left arguing for its widespread use.
I also think that as it stands, there is no chain of custody on mail-in ballots, and the security on them is laughable. That's for starters.
blame your own side. they got greedy and their tactics were too obvious.
11/3 - Trump's up by 700k
PA closes up, stops counting so they can decide how many fake ballots they need.
by early morning (just a few short hours) phony ballots arrive, allllllllllll for burglar biden; magically Trump's lead disappears. 700,000!!!
Dems should have taken their time, throw some of those ballots into the mix all day long, inconspicuously, more natural-looking over that 12 hour period of voting.
you guys can't even cheat right.![]()
It may be impossible to prove but that looks suspicious as hell.
But we have always had some form of mail in as legit and allowable. How would scale change that?
We're in a pandemic year. It's ridiculous to suggest that older people and other high-risk groups should have had to go wait in line and put themselves at risk, and go use a booth that hundreds if not thousands would travel through in a day.
There is nothing wrong w/ mail in, and there is absolutely nothing suspicious about so much of the mail-in breaking late for Biden. That was 100% expected.
It may be impossible to prove but that looks suspicious as hell.
Those spike graphs were shown in here by someone especially in WI and MI. All of a sudden they stopped and when they restarted the process allllllll votes were suddenly for Plugs.
I think it’s more than that. I think even many democrats realize it.
It’s like watching someone ‘that’s a little too lucky’ at the craps table.
Oh they know it. Even the demalquedacrats on this board know it. I was here election night as the results were rolling in. Jarod came on very early and said Trump wouldn't win Florida. VERY EARLY
People like Bartender were despondent. The numbers out of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were DEVASTATING to them.
There is nothing the explains what happened other than widespread cheating. And it isn't just the ballots. They used computer algorithms to flip votes from Trump to Biden electronically. That is frightening. The GOP may hate Trump, but if they want to be a governing party they better wake the fuck up because if they stand by and let them take Trump out this way then they doom themselves to loser status forever.
Just saw ratings for Fox News from this weekend. They collapsed faster than the NBA and they only have themselves to blame.