"Getting along with Russia is a good thing - not a bad thing"

Thing1 said:
Of course - because the only choices are caving to an adversary in embarrassing & obsequious fashion, or declaring war.

You just lost the debate, btw.
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you are the one criticizing a meeting -calling it a "cave in"
when you don't even wait for a press conference to find out what was covered
 
anatta said:
you are the one criticizing a meeting -calling it a "cave in"
when you don't even wait for a press conference to find out what was covered
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Walking away with anything less than the 12 indicted Russians will be a failure.
 
anatta said:
you are the one criticizing a meeting -calling it a "cave in"
when you don't even wait for a press conference to find out what was covered
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Just the act of meeting w/ him at this point - with what we just found out - should never have happened.

How is it possible for you to not even understand that?
 
anatta said:
thing is far from alone. John McCain/Graham say " we are at war with Russia".
They would rather war then talk
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Another LIE.

Where have I called for war, or had ANY warmongering talk whatsoever? That is pathetic, anatta.

You are hopelessly dishonest. Disgusting.
 
anatta said:
thing is far from alone. John McCain/Graham say " we are at war with Russia".
They would rather war then talk
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We are already at war; Russia already attacked us. They just didn't do it with bombs and bullets, but rather hacking and propaganda.
 
It's one of the easiest tells that you've lost the debate, and lost badly.

Someone calls for common sense diplomacy, and all you can say is that they're a 'warmonger calling for war.'

Sad. Child-like.
 
Thing1 said:
Another LIE.

Where have I called for war, or had ANY warmongering talk whatsoever? That is pathetic, anatta.

You are hopelessly dishonest. Disgusting.
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when you change your stance against talking, then i'll take you seriously that you are not part of the McCain
"we are at war with Russia" crowd.
 
anatta said:
when you change your stance against talking, then i'll take you seriously that you are not part of the McCain
"we are at war with Russia" crowd.
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So, you'll lie and misrepresent my position until I agree w/ every action Trump takes.

Thanks for admitting that.
 
anatta said:
when you change your stance against talking, then i'll take you seriously that you are not part of the McCain
"we are at war with Russia" crowd.
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So, you'll lie and misrepresent my position until I agree w/ every action Trump takes.

Thanks for admitting that.
 
LV426 said:
Then there is no reason for this meeting.
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because you don't understand the fact we need to cooperate on Syria, we need to try to find a way out of the war in Donbass, we need to cooperate on terrorism,and we need to ratchet down the cold war 2 escalation -you say there is no need to meet
 
anatta said:
when you change your stance against talking, then i'll take you seriously that you are not part of the McCain
"we are at war with Russia" crowd.
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We are at war with Russia - they attacked us. That's what Mueller's indictment, all our intelligence agencies, and the Senate Intel Committee's July 3rd report all say.

By denying that, all you're doing is defining your legacy as subservient to Trump, who is subservient to Russia.

#BurnTheLifeboats
 
anatta said:
because you don't understand the fact we need to cooperate on Syria, we need to try to find a way out of the war in Donbass, we need to cooperate on terrorism,and we need to ratchet down the cold war 2 escalation -you say there is no need to meet
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Why does Trump need to fly to Helsinki and meet with Putin alone in order to get that cooperation?
 
anatta said:
because you don't understand the fact we need to cooperate on Syria
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How so? What does that "cooperation" look like to you?


anatta said:
we need to try to find a way out of the war in Donbass, we need to cooperate on terrorism,and we need to ratchet down the cold war 2 escalation -you say there is no need to meet
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Ratchet down Cold War escalation? Russia attacked us. Your response is to fly over there to kiss their ass?

You're a traitor.
 
Thing1 said:
So?

Are you honestly trying to compare the idea that Russia is no longer our top threat w/ the idea that they should still be treated as an adversary w/ ulterior motives?

It's not that complex, Darth. Nothing about that is contradictory in the slightest. It's just common sense, on both counts.

The lengths you guys go to in order to defend Trump - it's really amazing.
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I’m not defending Trump I’m pointing out that the Left did an about face on Russia.

And it’s undeniable.
 
LV426 said:
McConnell was given the same brief Obama was that showed Russians attacking our election. But McConnell refused to come out and say it. Why? Obviously because he was complicit in it.
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Dunno. I don't speak for McCuntell. But that shouldn't have stopped Obama should it?
 
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